Chinese Geopolitics

SamuraiBlue said:

That part I understand but it failed to happen going from one dynasty to the next followed by another.
They did not call themselves emperor and changed from an individual to an oligopoly system but there is/was no check and balance system and there is still no peaceful mechanism to transfer authority from one regime to the next without a civil war/revolution breaking out.

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Here we see the CCP institutionalised the "peaceful" handover starting from Deng, but we never know if Xi Jin ping willing to transfer power 8 years later. There possible might be violence and unstability in China. One generation might differ from the next. Unlike the US system, where who has the largest politcal war chest and donation wins the Presidency buying media and opinions ads. You can see how important this is, when current President Obama doing the usual round fund raising activities.

port_08 said:

Here we see the CCP institutionalised the "peaceful" handover starting from Deng, but we never know if Xi Jin ping willing to transfer power 8 years later. There possible might be violence and unstability in China. One generation might differ from the next. Unlike the US system, where who has the largest politcal war chest and donation wins the Presidency buying media and opinions ads. You can see how important this is, when current President Obama doing the usual round fund raising activities.

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It's two 5-year terms, so 10 years, not 8.

Xi Jinping is the face of the CCP, but he is certainly not an absolute ruler. The CCP itself is not an absolute ruler as it must respond to the demands of the people if it wishes to stay in power. Therefore, I see no possibility whatsoever of any violence in the handover of power when the time comes.

solarz said:

It's two 5-year terms, so 10 years, not 8.

Xi Jinping is the face of the CCP, but he is certainly not an absolute ruler. The CCP itself is not an absolute ruler as it must respond to the demands of the people if it wishes to stay in power. Therefore, I see no possibility whatsoever of any violence in the handover of power when the time comes.

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that's correct no more absolute ruler in china anymore but a collective leadership that rules on consensus. the next leader in line after xi jinping retires would be Li yuanchao the current vice president.

mr.bean said:

that's correct no more absolute ruler in china anymore but a collective leadership that rules on consensus. the next leader in line after xi jinping retires would be Li yuanchao the current vice president.

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But Li Yuan Chao will be 73 by then ... too old. should be in the mids 50s. He is even older than his boss, Xi Jinping

solarz said:

Xi Jinping is the face of the CCP, but he is certainly not an absolute ruler. The CCP itself is not an absolute ruler as it must respond to the demands of the people if it wishes to stay in power. Therefore, I see no possibility whatsoever of any violence in the handover of power when the time comes.

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Well, you know, Chinese politicians don't have too much respect in their own country... All Chinese people do is irony towards them all over the Chinese side of the .

I bet the majority of Chinese people see their government better than most Westerners see theirs. Contrary to the propaganda, the Chinese leadership is well aware and in fear of the people since they obtained their power the same way. China might have corrupt politicians but at least they know they have to show their legitimacy to be in power hence why China is where it's at economically and military unlike some more favored "democratic" countries by the West where corruption has completely arrested growth.

AssassinsMace said:

the Chinese leadership is well aware and in fear of the people since they obtained their power the same way.

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Yeah, I remember that great political dynsties of US were created by some kind of... Cultural Revolution? Or something like that in the late XVIII century?

AssassinsMace said:

at least they know they have to show their legitimacy to be in power

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Yeah, because poeple will elect some other guys not approved by the PolitBuro...

Janiz said:

Yeah, I remember that great political dynsties of US were created by some kind of... Cultural Revolution? Or something like that in the late XVIII century?Yeah, because poeple will elect some other guys not approved by the PolitBuro...

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Yeah you mean like how the British say Hong Kongers were more happy with British rule when they gave no democracy?

port_08 said:

Here we see the CCP institutionalised the "peaceful" handover starting from Deng, but we never know if Xi Jin ping willing to transfer power 8 years later. There possible might be violence and unstability in China. One generation might differ from the next. Unlike the US system, where who has the largest politcal war chest and donation wins the Presidency buying media and opinions ads. You can see how important this is, when current President Obama doing the usual round fund raising activities.

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That is not handover of any thing since the authority remains within CCP.
If the Chinese people wanted another political party to obtain authority the only way is through a revolution.

SamuraiBlue said:

That is not handover of any thing since the authority remains within CCP.
If the Chinese people wanted another political party to obtain authority the only way is through a revolution.

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So when Bush Sr. succeeded Reagan as the president, there was no hand over of authority?

The only thing that cause a revolution in China today is if CCP doesn't stand up to Japanese aggression and provocation.