Chinese Geopolitics

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Lezt

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Most reasonable people would say China doesn't have universal suffrage, and most reasonable people would say US does.

Well lets ask a reasonable question,

if the majority of the people say that the earth is rectangular, does it make it true?

The majority means nothing in terms of actual truths; as those are only different vantage points.
 

Blackstone

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Well lets ask a reasonable question,

if the majority of the people say that the earth is rectangular, does it make it true?

The majority means nothing in terms of actual truths; as those are only different vantage points.

You know very well "rectangular" Earth is just a figure of speech. I suspect you're playing mind games, and it's not worth my time. No offense, and I know this is a public forum, but humor has its limits.
 

SamuraiBlue

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The problem with PR politics is that various check and balance mechanism is not working. General election is just one of them. Even if general election is adopted if there are no other political party beside the Communist party then there is limited meaning in initiating general election.

Basically China never accepted the principle of Magna Carta like most all other democratic states.
 

Blackstone

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What gain does Japan has by trying to prevent China from being the leader in Asia? The elite Japanese rulers knows very well they don't have the size and resources to take on China eventually so why bother? Why not adjust to the coming time and do with what they have instead by being a prosperous island nation? :confused:

Rivalries between nations aren't always logical, and there's so much bad blood between China and Japan that make clear thinking difficult. For example, is it logical for Japanese leaders to deny forcing women into sex slavery or to say Japan wasn't the aggressor in WW2? Facts are national pride often drive reason into hiding, and that goes for everyone.
 

Blackstone

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The problem with PR politics is that various check and balance mechanism is not working. General election is just one of them. Even if general election is adopted if there are no other political party beside the Communist party then there is limited meaning in initiating general election.

Basically China never accepted the principle of Magna Carta like most all other democratic states.

Your claim is completely wrong. The late Qing Empire proposed to institute a Constitutional Monarchy, but it was too little, too late to save them. Immediately after the Qing Dynasty, Nationalist China, under Sun Yat Sen, embraced democracy with an enumerated constitution and a republican form of government, but Imperial Japan invaded China and put an end to her nascent democratic government.
 

SamuraiBlue

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Your claim is completely wrong. The late Qing Empire proposed to institute a Constitutional Monarchy, but it was too little, too late to save them. Immediately after the Qing Dynasty, Nationalist China, under Sun Yat Sen, embraced democracy with an enumerated constitution and a republican form of government, but Imperial Japan invaded China and put an end to her nascent democratic government.

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is basically the same as what CCP is doing today.
Without an opposition party check and balance does not exist.

Like the saying goes "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
 

solarz

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I think the biggest problem between China and Japan is lack of trust and understanding between people of both countries. I've been to Japan and talked to people. Many believe that as soon as China becomes so powerful that in case of a massive slaughter of Japanese people by PRC, US wouldn't take serious action, PRC would attack Japan to take revenge by destroying all that is Japanese and put an extinction on Japanese people, culture and sovereignty. People seriously think that every single one of them will be killed. They think that Korea and China will be on united front. They will dictate their superiority to the rest of Asia. EU and US will be safe. I even came to some people thinking that the Japanese government has to buy some land in remote places to be safe and make a new Japan and save it from the inevitable apocalypse.

Well, you know what they say about projecting your thoughts onto others...

It wouldn't surprise me if the Japanese really thought that way. After all, they were taught during WW2 that their invasion of China was an act of "self-defense".
 

solarz

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Your claim is completely wrong. The late Qing Empire proposed to institute a Constitutional Monarchy, but it was too little, too late to save them. Immediately after the Qing Dynasty, Nationalist China, under Sun Yat Sen, embraced democracy with an enumerated constitution and a republican form of government, but Imperial Japan invaded China and put an end to her nascent democratic government.

Actually, it was not the Japanese invasion that destroyed the ROC's nascent democratic movement. It was Yuan Shikai appointing himself emperor, and later Jiang Jieshi mass purging political opponents that destroyed any chance of a Chinese democracy.
 

Blackstone

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Nope
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is basically the same as what CCP is doing today.
Without an opposition party check and balance does not exist.

Like the saying goes "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

I said "nascent," meaning beginning to exist or develop.

nas·cent
[nas-uhnt, ney-suhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
beginning to exist or develop: the nascent republic.
 
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