Chinese Engine Development

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Re: is WS-10 "leaky jet" or High bypass TF engine?

hey this is a chart posted online comparing the stats of WS-10A to other engines. The interesting part is the specs on Taihong II. The T/W ratio improved from 7.5 to 9.5, but the thrust only went up from 132 to 155 kN. I guess the engine is getting smaller?
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Tphuang,
Pardon my ignorance but what is this Taihong II. If i am not wrong Taihong or Taihang is WS-10A. If that is true, then are there two versions(I,II) already being tested?
 

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Re: is WS-10 "leaky jet" or High bypass TF engine?

Tphuang,
Pardon my ignorance but what is this Taihong II. If i am not wrong Taihong or Taihang is WS-10A. If that is true, then are there two versions(I,II) already being tested?

The first is in mass production, the second is in development. They say they have managed to get the T/W ratio up to 9 already, but still the certification is quite a bit away.
 

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yeah, this is a new agreement between Salyut and China, not sure what kind of help will be involved though.
Zhuhai. November 2. (Interfax-AVN) - The Moscow-based Salyut Engineering
Industrial Enterprise and the Chinese Liming Corporation signed a
memorandum of understanding on establishing the Salyut-Liming joint
venture at Airshow China 2006 in Zhuhai.
"The joint venture will promote joint products in the international
market," Salyut Director General Yury Yeliseyev said on Thursday.
He pointed out that in addition to manufacturing aircraft engines,
Salyut produced 20-and 60-MW power units, garbage disposal plants, and
water-desalinating plants.
According to him, such products are in demand.
For instance, Salyut signed a contract with the Mosenergo Company on
manufacturing USD 60 mln worth of 60-MW power plants this year.
"We expect the power plants to be launched into mass production next
year," Yeliseyev said.
As far as water-desalinating plants are concerned, according to him, the
Middle East market demand alone is believed to amount to $5 billion a
year, while that in Southeast Asia is considerably higher.
According to Yeliseyev, the joint venture will be established on a par.
"The venture may be established in late 2007. However, every legal
detail will have to be settled before that," Yeliseyev said.
He emphasized that the joint venture would take part in upgrading power
plants for combat aircraft, as well as developing the Chinese medium air
transport.
Yeliseyev did not rule out participation of the Ukrainian Progress
Design Bureau, developing a future engine with a thrust of 12 tons.
According to Yeliseyev, the shift from the contractor-customer relations
to partnership is a must.
Salyut designs, manufactures, and maintains AL-31F/FN engines, mounted
on Su-family aircraft, overhauls AL-21Fs, mounted on Su-22s and Su-24s,
and R-15B-300s, fitted on MiG-25s, and produces units and assemblies for
the D-436T, powering Be-200s, An-148s, Tu-334s, and Tu-230s, and the
D-27, mounted on An-70s, An-180s, and Be-42s. The enterprise also
manufactures and provides maintenance to gas turbines and gas compressor
units.
According to the Salyut press-service, Salyut officials are expected to
carry out a number of negotiations and sign contracts in the course of
Airshow China 2006, held in Zhuhai from Tuesday to Sunday.
 

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i want to know about ws-13 statu is it ready

it's not ready yet, although i'd expect information about its status to come out pretty soon. Right now, WS-10A is getting all the news item. A year ago, we were getting both WS-10A and WS-13 news out of the AVIC-1 daily news.
 

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it's not ready yet, although i'd expect information about its status to come out pretty soon. Right now, WS-10A is getting all the news item. A year ago, we were getting both WS-10A and WS-13 news out of the AVIC-1 daily news.

about 2 years ago,beijing hosted defense exhibition call National defense technological Acheivementon exhibition,foreign visitor are not allow visit,carefully selected official are invited.but one picture stood out,was a large picture locally design big fan turbofan engine usually seen boeing or airbus jet liner,while there's no report exactly was kind of engine,but during 2001,there's mention that AVIC will use WS-10 core engine to develop big fan jet engine,the engine will be call WS-10G
 

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it's not ready yet, although i'd expect information about its status to come out pretty soon. Right now, WS-10A is getting all the news item. A year ago, we were getting both WS-10A and WS-13 news out of the AVIC-1 daily news.
according to official report.the new engine is liscense copy of RD-33K.
aside from RD-33K,it also report that China also obtain liscense to product helicopter (klinov?) engine.
 

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according to official report.the new engine is liscense copy of RD-33K.
aside from RD-33K,it also report that China also obtain liscense to product helicopter (klinov?) engine.
While WS-13 is a typical attempt of China taking an existing Russian design and copying it (of course, you can expect the usual Chinese blubber about improving on the original design), it is by no means a licensed copy. The Russians never gave China license to produce RD-93.
 
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