Chinese Economics Thread

abenomics12345

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Yes and disposable income was -1% - meaning a 3-4% gap between energy demand and wage growth. Translating to China, 7% electricity growth and 3-4% disposable income growth:

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What the 7% electricity demand growth means is that workers/companies are likely to make 10% more stuff (assuming productivity/energy efficiency gains) while workers are earning 3-4% more.

Imagine if your boss told you to be 10% more productive but only pay you 3% more.

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To be clear, it feels amazing when I travel to China and my Meituan delivery costs 10-20% less than it was last year for the same thing, but I don't make money in China and don't have to take the hit on the income. But me 'feeling better' comes directly as a consequence of the entire stack of workers enabling that by working harder and getting paid less.
 
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HighGround

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Yup, this is about as bad as it would get for China.

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As bad as it gets for China is still an annual 7-8% growth in electricity consumption:
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This is not a proxy for economic growth or household wealth.

China does a lot of things right, but I'd find this thread a lot more informative if more people focused on areas of weakness in the Chinese economy and what can be done to fix them.

Conversely, this behavior is basically completely inversed in the American Economics Thread...
 

abenomics12345

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This is not a proxy for economic growth or household wealth.

China does a lot of things right, but I'd find this thread a lot more informative if more people focused on areas of weakness in the Chinese economy and what can be done to fix them.

Conversely, this behavior is basically completely inversed in the American Economics Thread...
If only the two countries' economic policies converged to a happy medium...the world would be in a much better place.
 

tokenanalyst

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What the 7% electricity demand growth means is that workers/companies are likely to make 10% more stuff (assuming productivity/energy efficiency gains) while workers are earning 3-4% more.

Imagine if your boss told you to be 10% more productive but only pay you 3% more.
Depends on the inflation rate, if stuff is cheap or getting cheaper 3% more feels like a fortune, but if inflation is like 20% is high 3% means every year your are poorer.
 
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