Chinese Economics Thread

supercat

Major
This is propaganda. All pigs are going to be sacrificed to Xi by getting boiled alive after his coronation as emperor-for-life of China :eek::eek::eek:
Generalization is the hallmark of bigotry and racism. Some Westerners love to smear ALL Chinese as barbaric savages using a few animal-cruelty videos on YouTube, completely ignoring the fact that psychopaths can be any ethnicity and exist in all societies.

Wondering why Scholz is in such a hurry to visit China? BTW, FDI in China increased 16.4% Jan-Aug YoY.

German optical giant Zeiss breaks ground on US$25 million plant in Suzhou in vote of confidence in China​

  • The Suzhou facility will be for R&D and manufacturing of ophthalmic equipment, and comes after a US$60 million investment in Shanghai

  • In the first eight months of the year, foreign direct investment in China increased 16.4 per cent year on year, reaching 892.7 billion yuan

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German chemical giant BASF announced on Oct 11 that it will invest in a new world-class Neopentyl Glycol plant at its new Verbund site in the coastal city of Zhanjiang in the western part of Guangdong province.

With an annual production capacity of 80,000 metric tons, the new NPG plant is expected to come on stream in the last quarter of 2025, to boost BASF's global NPG capacity to 335,000 metric tons annually from 255,000 tons at present.
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China's economic development has really turned the table. Now German groceries are sold in Chinese supermarkets.
 

SanWenYu

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For those who want to see the performance by sectors and industries, here are the GDP numbers for Q3 from the National Stats:
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Total GDP of the first three quarters grew by 3.0% YOY. The primary sector of economy grew by 4.2%, the secondary sector, i.e. manufacturing etc, grew by 3.9%, the tertiary sector grew by 2.3%.

Q3 alone grew by 3.9% YOY while the Q1 and Q2 grew by 4.8% and 0.4%, respectively.

据国家统计局网站10月24日消息,今年以来,面对复杂严峻的国内外形势和多重超预期因素冲击,在以习近平同志为核心的党中央坚强领导下,各地区各部门坚持稳中求进工作总基调,按照疫情要防住、经济要稳住、发展要安全的要求,高效统筹疫情防控和经济社会发展,加快落实稳经济一揽子政策和接续政策措施,国民经济顶住压力持续恢复,三季度经济恢复向好,明显好于二季度,生产需求持续改善,就业物价总体稳定,民生保障有力有效,总体运行在合理区间。

初步核算,前三季度国内生产总值870269亿元,按不变价格计算,同比增长3.0%,比上半年加快0.5个百分点。分产业看,第一产业增加值54779亿元,同比增长4.2%;第二产业增加值350189亿元,增长3.9%;第三产业增加值465300亿元,增长2.3%。分季度看,一季度国内生产总值同比增长4.8%,二季度增长0.4%,三季度增长3.9%。从环比看,三季度国内生产总值增长3.9%。

Investment in infrastructure and manufacturing increased by 8.6% and 10.1%, respectively. Specifically, investment in high tech related manufacturing and services grew by 20.2%.

前三季度,全国固定资产投资(不含农户)421412亿元,同比增长5.9%。分领域看,基础设施投资同比增长8.6%,制造业投资增长10.1%,房地产开发投资下降8.0%。分产业看,第一产业投资同比增长1.6%,第二产业投资增长11.0%,第三产业投资增长3.9%。民间投资增长2.0%。高技术产业投资增长20.2%,其中高技术制造业和高技术服务业投资分别增长23.4%、13.4%。高技术制造业中,电子及通信设备制造业、医疗仪器设备及仪器仪表制造业投资分别增长28.8%、26.5%;高技术服务业中,科技成果转化服务业、研发设计服务业投资分别增长22.1%、18.7%。社会领域投资增长13.2%,其中卫生、教育投资分别增长31.2%、8.1%。全国商品房销售面积101422万平方米,同比下降22.2%;商品房销售额99380亿元,下降26.3%。三季度,固定资产投资同比增长5.7%,比二季度加快1.5个百分点;9月份固定资产投资环比增长0.53%。

Overall unemployment dropped to 5.4% in average in Q3, from 5.8% in Q2. In Q3, youth unemployment (16-24 yo) is 17.9% while it is 4.7% for adults (25-59 yo).

前三季度,全国城镇调查失业率平均为5.6%,其中三季度平均为5.4%,比二季度下降0.4个百分点。9月份,全国城镇调查失业率为5.5%,比上月上升0.2个百分点。本地户籍人口调查失业率为5.4%;外来户籍人口调查失业率为5.6%,其中外来农业户籍人口调查失业率为5.5%。16-24岁人口、25-59岁人口调查失业率分别为17.9%、4.7%。31个大城市城镇调查失业率为5.8%。全国企业就业人员周平均工作时间为47.8小时。三季度末,外出务工农村劳动力总量18270万人。
 

Minm

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So China can grow at 4% a year with minor lockdowns and the real estate bubble deflating, while a major lockdown like in Q2 will reduce growth to almost 0%. The recovery in 2023 is going to be very strong, assuming that covid related restrictions continue to be relaxed as they have been so far.

Most importantly, this shows that real estate really isn't that important in the Chinese economy. Certain people were claiming it to be around 30% of GDP, but now the economy has achieved almost 4% of growth even though property sales are down 22%, construction starts are down 38% and investment is down 8%. Clearly it has been possible to successfully shift activity from construction of private homes into other sectors.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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To me, the biggest test of Xi's new government is whether it implements a nationwide property tax. My working theory previously was that this was something Xi wanted to do but was impeded by other factions and special interests. Now that theory will be put to the test: If he's still hesitant and doesn't at least introduce a plan to phase in property taxes, I'll know that this is something he's personally cautious about and my theory will be invalidated.

Property taxes - no matter their political difficulty - will be enormously beneficial for China. It will treat the pathologies of the real estate market at the root, it will open up a vast new revenue stream for local governments, and most importantly, it will bring home prices down. High housing prices is the number one impediment to Chinese families having more children, and the tax could even be structured to exempt families with two or more children.
 
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