Chinese Aviation Industry

Michael90

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2nd ARJ-21 about to be delivered to TransNusa. Imo, these deliveries are still going a little slow
Yeah the ARJ21 has been operational for over 7 years now, seems they are still not capable of ramping up production as they intended. Guess they still need more time to be able to mature their production efficiency(they can be forgivensince its their first time producing and running a civilian airliner). So far deliveries are still to slow to be honest. Let's see if it will be the same story with C919. HOPEFULLY, they can meet their ambitious delivery targets they set for the C919. Else it will be unfortunate
 

Michael90

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to be fair, final assembly represent very low % of the value add on A321NEO. It's just a case where A321 series delays are out of control and the EU airlines need the deliveries sooner.

Until the local A320NEO aircraft start using a lot more Chinese components, this is not that meaningful
Yeah, I thought that was obvious? Assembling stuffs is a good thing for a country but nothing groundbreaking obviously. What is important as you said is the involvement of local companies being suppliers of major parts and components of a said products, that's where the real value addition and money is made and it helps upgrades the country's industrial base.
 

zszczhyx

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Yeah the ARJ21 has been operational for over 7 years now, seems they are still not capable of ramping up production as they intended. Guess they still need more time to be able to mature their production efficiency(they can be forgivensince its their first time producing and running a civilian airliner). So far deliveries are still to slow to be honest. Let's see if it will be the same story with C919. HOPEFULLY, they can meet their ambitious delivery targets they set for the C919. Else it will be unfortunate
The bottleneck may be the number of pilots in the airline, not the production speed of COMAC. It is said that the current production rate is basically 10 days/plane, the fastest can be 7 days/plane, determined by the order status.
 

Michael90

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The bottleneck may be the number of pilots in the airline, not the production speed of COMAC. It is said that the current production rate is basically 10 days/plane, the fastest can be 7 days/plane, determined by the order status.
You mean COMAC can't train enough pilots for the number of planes they are able to produce?
 

lcloo

Captain
This is a piece of 2019 old news from Simpleflying.com but applicable to current situation and beyond 2030.

Shortage of airlines pilots is due to fast expansion of huge China airlines market. China is hiring foreign pilots because it is impossible to produe 124,000 new airlines pilots in next 15 years.

Pilot forecasts in numbers

According to Boeing's Pilot & Technician Outlook for 2019 to 2038, over 800,000 civil aviation pilots will be required over the 20-year period. Of the estimated 804,000 pilots, the vast majority, 645,000, could be needed in the commercial sector.

Globally, the Asia-Pacific region will drive most commercial demand (38% or 244,000), followed by North America (20.5% or 131,000) and then Europe (18.4% or 118,000).

Within the APAC region, China is set to account for more than half of local appetite, demanding up to 124,000 new commercial pilots by 2038.

Impressively, the
PRC could need more pilots than all of Europe or North America or the Middle East, Latin America, Africa and Russia/ Central Asia combined.
 

by78

General
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