China's strategy in Korean peninsula

USA "ok" with talks between Koreas, like 2 brothers need American permission to talk to each other. Who's idea was it to give permission when no one asked for any to look like the US got it's way? LOL Was it Nimrata Randhawa? And then US whispers into South Korea's ear, "Your brother is insincere. He hopes to tear us apart, true friends! You won't let him do that, will you? You wouldn't agree to anything without asking me first, would you? I'm your only real friend."



U.S. ok with talks between Koreas, doubts Kim Jong Un sincerity

Reuters Staff

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department said on Tuesday it is up to South Korea whether to hold talks with North Korea but Washington is skeptical of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s sincerity if such talks happen.

“If the two countries decide that they want to have talks, that would be certainly their choice,” State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert told reporters. “Kim Jong Un may be trying to drive a wedge of some sort between the two nations, between our nation and the Republic of Korea. I can assure you that that will not happen ... We are very skeptical of Kim Jong Un’s sincerity in sitting down and having talks.”


Reporting by Arshad Mohammed; Editing by James Dalgleish

Trump is probably FURIOUS with SK President Moon Jae-in accepted with open arms KJU's peace overtures to send NK delegation Olympic games.

This will signal a significant strained ties between US and SK over the approach towards NK.

People exaggerate the strained ties between China and NK, but we are beginning to see significant strained ties between US and SK as well, despite what the Trump admin says "they are ok"... it means they are not really ok with Seoul becoming buddies with NK again.

NK is playing both sides so masterfully.

Phead128 said:

Trump is probably FURIOUS with SK President Moon Jae-in accepted with open arms KJU's peace overtures to send NK delegation Olympic games.

This will signal a significant strained ties between US and SK over the approach towards NK.

People exaggerate the strained ties between China and NK, but we are beginning to see significant strained ties between US and SK as well, despite what the Trump admin says "they are ok"... it means they are not really ok with Seoul becoming buddies with NK again.

NK is playing both sides so masterfully.

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Of course they're not "OK." The whole premise of the US using SK to try to contain China is based on NK and SK being at each other's throats so the US could use the excuse that it's there to "protect" SK. If they get along, we're just counting the days before the US gets the eviction notice from Seoul.

manqiangrexue said:

Of course they're not "OK." The whole premise of the US using SK to try to contain China is based on NK and SK being at each other's throats so the US could use the excuse that it's there to "protect" SK. If they get along, we're just counting the days before the US gets the eviction notice from Seoul.

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Can to US get eviction notice from Seoul ?

They have lot of military personel there, and deep rooted infulence to the economy/ society.

I think they can destroy any SK goverment that doesn't follow the guidelines.


They are as independent like Eastern Europe was in the 60s.

Anlsvrthng said:

Can to US get eviction notice from Seoul ?

They have lot of military personel there, and deep rooted infulence to the economy/ society.

I think they can destroy any SK goverment that doesn't follow the guidelines.


They are as independent like Eastern Europe was in the 60s.

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Officially and legally, they can get evicted. What kind of temper tantrum the US throws and what they do to their "ally" if that happens is anyone's guess but if powerful SK politicians calling for the removal of US forces start turning up dead and people like Sigmund Rhee get put in to replace them, it will be clear to the world what's happening. We'll see what level China is at by then and if China would have the power to clean up that circus for the sake of Korea and Asia.

manqiangrexue said:

Officially and legally, they can get evicted. What kind of temper tantrum the US throws and what they do to their "ally" if that happens is anyone's guess but if powerful SK politicians calling for the removal of US forces start turning up dead and people like Sigmund Rhee get put in to replace them, it will be clear to the world what's happening. We'll see what level China is at by then and if China would have the power to clean up that circus for the sake of Korea and Asia.

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Not simply that

The samsung/LG can die overnight , simply by restricting key technologies or revoke licences from them.

Practicaly the current SK economy depending on the US to work, without active and unlimited US trade concessions they can not sustain the current lvel of living and economical activity.

Adn the US doesn't care what anyone think, they control the mainstream media, so all SK issue will be sold as Chinese / NK medling with the SK internal politics.
Like in Ukraine.

Anlsvrthng said:

Not simply that

The samsung/LG can die overnight , simply by restricting key technologies or revoke licences from them.

Practicaly the current SK economy depending on the US to work, without active and unlimited US trade concessions they can not sustain the current lvel of living and economical activity.

Adn the US doesn't care what anyone think, they control the mainstream media, so all SK issue will be sold as Chinese / NK medling with the SK internal politics.
Like in Ukraine.

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Well, it will depend on some factors, mainly China's strength, both militarily and economically. If China is economically very powerful, then it can more than nullify any financial damage that America wants to inflict as a consequence of its eviction. If China is militarily very strong, it reduces America's desire to be in Korea if it sees its anti-China containment strategy in SK as pointless and expensive. An extremely powerful China can solve all of Korea's problems including its division and its current embarrassing occupation by a foreign military. It all depends on China's strength.

A real world example, however, is that the Philippines successfully and peacefully evicted the US military so I would not say it is impossible for an enlightened Korea.

manqiangrexue said:

Well, it will depend on some factors, mainly China's strength, both militarily and economically. If China is economically very powerful, then it can more than nullify any financial damage that America wants to inflict as a consequence of its eviction. If China is militarily very strong, it reduces America's desire to be in Korea if it sees its anti-China containment strategy in SK as pointless and expensive. An extremely powerful China can solve all of Korea's problems including its division and its current embarrassing occupation by a foreign military. It all depends on China's strength.

A real world example, however, is that the Philippines successfully and peacefully evicted the US military so I would not say it is impossible for an enlightened Korea.

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Not that easy.

exampe, semiconductor : The SK industry depending on the US technology to manufacture the ICs for phones, tablets , memories and so on.
China can't compete on this area, because it is forbidden to transfer any of these technologies there.

How can the SK industry survive without US spare parts for the litography machines, ro for clean rooms?
China can't make any of these parts.

And afterwards, SK depending on the export markets for this products.

Anlsvrthng said:

Not that easy.

exampe, semiconductor : The SK industry depending on the US technology to manufacture the ICs for phones, tablets , memories and so on.
China can't compete on this area, because it is forbidden to transfer any of these technologies there.

How can the SK industry survive without US spare parts for the litography machines, ro for clean rooms?
China can't make any of these parts.

And afterwards, SK depending on the export markets for this products.

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Litography? Clean rooms? I don't know what you're talking about.

There are small countries in the world that get along just fine by themselves without American trade concessions and tech transfers. Besides, does SK still need US help to make its electronics? I don't know about that. China makes smartphones and tablets just fine; many say Huawei is of of better value than Apple.

Maybe there are some things that China doesn't make competitively yet. We're also nowhere near the junction where we consider US eviction from the Korean peninsula. So as I said, it all depends on how capable China becomes by the time we arrive at that bridge. If China's not strong enough to pull Korea out, it's likely to be stuck in a big ol' American ditch for a good while. Or they can say, "To hell with the economy and technology; we need them out." Just like the Philippines LOL

manqiangrexue said:

Litography? Clean rooms? I don't know what you're talking about.

There are small countries in the world that get along just fine by themselves without American trade concessions and tech transfers. Besides, does SK still need US help to make its electronics? I don't know about that. China makes smartphones and tablets just fine; many say Huawei is of of better value than Apple.

Maybe there are some things that China doesn't make competitively yet. We're also nowhere near the junction where we consider US eviction from the Korean peninsula. So as I said, it all depends on how capable China becomes by the time we arrive at that bridge. If China's not strong enough to pull Korea out, it's likely to be stuck in a big ol' American ditch for a good while. Or they can say, "To hell with the economy and technology; we need them out." Just like the Philippines LOL

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Suggestion: before you make statement check the facts.

Tops semiconductor manufacturers:
1st USA 50%
2nd South Korea 17%
3rd Japan 11%
4th EU 9%
5th Taiwan 6%
6th China 4%
7th everyone else 3%

The US controlled group control 93% of semi industry.


Semiconductor manufacturing equipment:
47% USA
30% Japan
17% Netherlands
6% everyone else.


So, the Chinese tablets using US or SK ICs.
And due to the above, as soon as SK stop to be US colony it will loose its semiconductor industry.