China's Space Program News Thread

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NikeX

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It's better China goes it alone. Like you think that's bad? It's called being independent. Just look at any news article's comments talking about the upcoming launch. Look at how many people don't want it to happen and call for it to be shot down. If China is backward, what are you all afraid of?

I was not aware that people were wishing misfortune on the upcoming Chinese launch. Can you provide some evidence of these very serious allegations?

I say more power to China if they can back their space program proposals with action
 

AssassinsMace

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Whose calling for the Chinese launch to be shot down?

Just look at any comments to articles of this and you'll always find someone that calls for it to be shot down. It's happened virtually every major Chinese space launch.

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I was not aware that people were wishing misfortune on the upcoming Chinese launch. Can you provide some evidence of these very serious allegations?

I say more power to China if they can back their space program proposals with action

There's more wishing for misfortune than anything else. You guys should know that.
 

NikeX

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Right now, China is already exceeding US in the number of launch and manned flight. US may not be a has been but it remains to be seen when or if they can catch up to China again.
I don't see how private space is a game changer. US has problems making competitive space tech, I doubt re-labeling as private will make much difference. It may just end up needing government hand-outs like many other US sectors.

You are confused. China hasn't exceeded the United States in manned flight. Look up the manned space programs from Mercury on until today and revise your thinking.

And catch up to China in what? Please tell me what China has done that America didn't do decades ago

And finally your understanding of private space is incomplete. Do some research and see what I am talking about
 

Blitzo

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Taking the risk like Apollo 8 did

".....Apollo 8 (AS-503) was launched from KSC Launch Complex 39, Pad A, at 7:51 a.m. EST Dec. 21 on a Saturn V booster. The spacecraft crew was made up of Frank Borman, James A. Lovell, Jr., and William A. Anders. Apollo 8 was the first spacecraft to be launched by a Saturn V with a crew on board, and that crew became the first men to fly around the moon...."

Apollo 8 was a leap of faith because the Saturn 5 had never been flown with men aboard. And the Apollo command module could have failed to leave moon orbit and stranded the crew in lunar orbit.

That was a risky mission by any measure of the imagination

I think you misunderstood the question.
By achievements, I mean it relatively. For instance, do you measure the capability of manned missions by the distance they travel (say a moon mission) or by the number of launches done in a year (LEO?). And in that vein, how do you measure space capability in general? a combination of satellite, moon, mars missions, manned missions?

And my point is that if it appears that China is making progress towards lunar exploration you can be sure that the American space program will do something to top them. That is what competition is all about.

Mhmm. Well the previous example doesn't exactly back up your argument, the situations are very different and no one is in a space race.

Besides even if china announced its intentions to go the moon sometime next decade, you have to wonder whether the US government will allocate money for another moon mission out of vanity's sake.
 

NikeX

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Just look at any comments to articles of this and you'll always find someone that calls for it to be shot down. It's happened virtually every major Chinese space launch.



There's more wishing for misfortune than anything else. You guys should know that.

By who? Are you sure that you are not imagining these calls for misfortune on the upcoming Chinese launch?

Please post evidence of someone calling for the Chinese spacecraft to be shot down. I sure have not seen anything to support your charges
 

AssassinsMace

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By who? Are you sure that you are not imagining these calls for misfortune on the upcoming Chinese launch?

Please post evidence of someone calling for the Chinese spacecraft to be shot down. I sure have not seen anything to support your charges

Like you need proof that people wish failure on China? It's simple. Go to any news story about the upcoming launch on the internet with comments and read. It won't take long to find what you're asking.
 

Schumacher

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You are confused. China hasn't exceeded the United States in manned flight. Look up the manned space programs from Mercury on until today and revise your thinking.

And catch up to China in what? Please tell me what China has done that America didn't do decades ago

And finally your understanding of private space is incomplete. Do some research and see what I am talking about

It's good to be nostalgic about the past but we live in the present and the fact is US can't send a man to space now while China can.
Nothing wrong with what I said about private space, it hasn't proven much yet.
 

no_name

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America embarked on a frenzy space race with the soviets and achieved a lot during the 50-70's. With the multiple moon landings it kind of reminded me of Zheng He's multiple fleet expeditions (giant ships vs giant rockets). Meanwhile it seems that China, like the Europe at the time, is lagging behind but seriously starting to develop and em-broaden their tech base and tech use.

There is a kind of parallel that I found interesting just looking at things from another angle.
 

siegecrossbow

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America embarked on a frenzy space race with the soviets and achieved a lot during the 50-70's. With the multiple moon landings it kind of reminded me of Zheng He's multiple fleet expeditions (giant ships vs giant rockets). Meanwhile it seems that China, like the Europe at the time, is lagging behind but seriously starting to develop and em-broaden their tech base and tech use.

There is a kind of parallel that I found interesting just looking at things from another angle.

Interesting analogy. However unless there are serious cuts in U.S. space effort funding I don't see Americans giving up on space exploration. Whether massive scale colonization will occur depends heavily on the practical exploitation of extraterrestrial resources.
 

NikeX

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It's good to be nostalgic about the past but we live in the present and the fact is US can't send a man to space now while China can.
Nothing wrong with what I said about private space, it hasn't proven much yet.

Americans already have men in space aboard the ISS. Next topic please
 
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