Are you trolling or are you a troll? Please do tell why would or should China back down on this issue, especially against the PH? And what allies are we talking about?
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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My FRAGILE EGO what? Lol I have no idea what you're trying to suggest for China to do, when it comes to its unfortunate dispute with the PH under its current regime. What are China's realistic choices without giving an inch towards the PH clear provocative actions design to cause China to take drastic actions that would be condemned in the spectre of western narrative by it's media already on standby on many of these ships, plane that have been fueling and prodding the PH.
As for the awesome suggestion I sign up with the PAP, why not the PLAN, PLAGF, PLAAF, or even better M.S.S. if you're going to suggest something ludicrously awesome gave me some options.
Exactly what the coast guard is doing right now, of course. Exercising restraint and using the least violent means to achieve the goal. As I said, there is no need for aggressive action, no need to humiliate them, no need for anything except patient pressure to wear them down and exhaust their resolve. The Philippines are trying to play the PR game, and the answer to that is slow and gradual moves instead of big dramatic ones. The 1st water cannon headline is shocking, the 100th one is routine. People like you want to rush in and give them more headlines just because you're upset they aren't folding over right away. And that's pure ego talking. Of course there will be people who oppose you, that's life. Winning is never free. Get used to it.
Because CCG is part of PAP, and they are the ones putting on the pressure here. If you don't like how they do it, then go ahead and change it.
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It's important to note that actions taken by CCG, or the PRC do not exist in a vacuum. Unlike the division of these topics into threads on this forum where we are free to scrutinize every single action or inaction against the PH & Taiwan by the CCG, the reality on the ground is very dynamic and happening simultaneously.
Perhaps ROC & PH are coordinating their provocations alongwith the US & vassal Co believing that China is facing economic headwinds and not in the market for any drastic military adventures.
Perhaps PRC is more assertively thwarting the PH missions while taking a cautious approach in the straits to keep US and vassals focused on the SCS rather than the straits, where the PRC holds the advantage.
There are numerous plausible possibilities that are being debated and scrutinized by the relevant military/geopolitical circles and the actions/inactions undertaken by the PRC as a country so far reflect the best possible response to a given situation. This geopolitical game requires nerves of steel and cold decision making without giving in to primal human instincts. So to suggest that PRC should have done X instead of Y and not doing that made the PRC look bad is a very ignorant position to take on. This is not a question of scoring PR points for the PRC (perhaps it is for the PH side) but a question of sovereignty.
Perhaps ROC & PH are coordinating their provocations alongwith the US & vassal Co believing that China is facing economic headwinds and not in the market for any drastic military adventures.
Perhaps PRC is more assertively thwarting the PH missions while taking a cautious approach in the straits to keep US and vassals focused on the SCS rather than the straits, where the PRC holds the advantage.
There are numerous plausible possibilities that are being debated and scrutinized by the relevant military/geopolitical circles and the actions/inactions undertaken by the PRC as a country so far reflect the best possible response to a given situation. This geopolitical game requires nerves of steel and cold decision making without giving in to primal human instincts. So to suggest that PRC should have done X instead of Y and not doing that made the PRC look bad is a very ignorant position to take on. This is not a question of scoring PR points for the PRC (perhaps it is for the PH side) but a question of sovereignty.
Your ego is fragile too buddy. Otherwise, you wouldn't be resorting to such asinine response. This a forum where we can agree to disagree and that can sometimes involve a lot of passion and emotions from anyone of us at any given time. That's what makes us human and not just because am Chinese.
My opinion on the matter is just that an opinion, which is why I clearly stated that I thank the heavens Chinese political system isn't like that of the PH, U.S. or even the Republic of China a.k.a. Taiwan (where you see supposed educated people acting like a bunch of monkeys duking it out) because I guarantee you that it will not take a genius to rile up the mainland Chinese feelings and emotions that have been suppressed by all Chinese people and the government for good reasons.
Sovereignty, Chinese Sovereignty is a SACRED AND SOLEMN DUTY that the CPC promised to the nation, never again.
Let's stop feeding the troll, or at best useful idiot. If this view is the view held by the majority, then we best prepare for a reckoning down the road, and likely sooner for PH given the role they're playing now.
What is the bolded sentence supposed to mean?
PAVE-PAWS radar complex atop LeShan mountains in Taiwan. No such radar complex for US situational awareness in the SCS. This complex will have to be targeted in the opening salvo of fires so it's one trick pony if PRC chooses to go all in any way but disastrous in case of skirmishes with the US in the straits that do not necessarily lead to war as the US will continue to have a clear picture of PLA forces every step of the way without any operational or tactical surprises.
SCS conflicts despite the situation being unstable are for the most part negotiable between the two superpowers before resorting to a shooting war.
From my understanding, China does not desire conflict as a matter of policy but does adopt an assertive defense posture to thwart any provocations. This is evident in the water cannoning of the PH ships. It would have led to Board, search & seizure had the PH retaliated in a similar way or still insisted on continuing the mission. Following the escalatory ladder. It's not as easy to follow escalatory ladder in the straits coz once China plays it's hand, it will be in a position of "use it or lose it". There can never ever be a second Taiwan reunification war, it has to happen once and it has to happen right.
You're right, thankfully the system doesn't need to account for emotional nonsense like yours. Only a fragile ego puts themselves before the nation. Sovereignty is a sacred and solemn duty which has already waited unfulfilled for many decades. And if necessary, it will wait for many more. If you truly believed in the nation, you would believe that it will continue for thousands of years after you, just as it did thousands before. Perhaps none of us here will ever see the conclusion, but the nation will.
Who is "we" here? Your one and only contribution has been a random insult. You aren't even useful, just an idiot. I guess patience would seem like trolling to someone so deluded.
Fortunately it doesn't matter what the majority thinks, just the CMC. And they think restraint is the way forward. Your reckoning can wait its turn.
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We don't want blood shed or war, and I am not a warmonger. We'll hope that PH and American provocations will not lead to an accident that will force the Chinese government hands otherwise it'll be unfortunate for all of us. I wonder, though, if there's shooting and even death on the Chinese navy what would your stance be? Oh, it's just one or two lives, we shouldn't go to war. Let China continue doing business to make money.
China was lost and was reassembled back together in a costly, bloody war that involved millions of Chinese lives you seem to forget that. It took the current political system, and the man with the balls of steel, MAO ZEDONG to reforge back China whole again. Prior to him and the party rising to power there were many Chinese who lost faith of themselves, became ashamed of their heritage a.k.a. Hanjians, that still reverberate to some Chinese people to this day. I think your opinion comes across cowardly and transactional. The very trait that cost China 100 Century humiliation
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