China's SCS Strategy Thread

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AndrewS

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A peaceful transition of power from the declining hegemon to a rising power.

Yea, ok..
The only "peaceful" transition in world's history was the UK->US, and that only happened after WW2

In "Destined For War", Graham Allison looked at 16 cases of recent examples of rising powers and the existing hegemon.

Of these, only 4 didn't involve a war.

So the track record is not great, but a peaceful enough power transition is possible.
 

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Not yet, Most US anti-China hawks in GOP and think tanks want more and more escalation. They want war now if they could, cause they think US still can win. They think if they don't fight now, they will no longer be able to win in the future.

Same with the likes of Phillipines and Taiwan. They want to escalate now and make gains with the hope that US backing will be enough to scare China into acceptance.

China needs to be strong enough so that even the most anti-China hawks start to think its ludicrous to fight China in the first island Chain.

China has achieved that level of deterrence on land. Not even the most anti-China hawks think US should invade China for example.

But US still thinks its invincible in the Air and Sea domain. That thinking needs to be changed with hard power gains by PLA.

The Chinese philosophy is always to downplay its capabilities for a surprise factor, and that's an example of what's happening here. They are happy with the US being so 10-20 years late in their understanding of Chinese power and their own power. If the US realizes that it's in deep shit, then they might start changing something, but if they are not aware of their own objective comprehensive capabilities, they are going to change nothing and remain stupid until the end and get defeated way easier.

It doesn't matter what anti-China hawks think, it is even great that American elites are so objectively delusional, under the dark. China only needs to be strong enough to defeat them 100km from its shores with 90-95% certainty in reality practically, which will happen in a few years. That's when they have a lower risk and damage in reclaiming Taiwan than staying silent and accepting provocations (affecting them domestically and internationally politically). We have both directions now, China is stronger every year, and US provocations are also more extreme every year. So, the most optimal choice is slowly leading towards taking action nowadays.
 

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about the Philippines needing a "paradigm shift" because its current efforts are unsuccessful.

Marcos noted that the Philippines has taken three legal steps, which include filing a diplomatic protest to the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, summoning Chinese Ambassador to the Philippines Huang Xilian, and making a “demarche to the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs officials” to call out the China Coast Guard (CCG).

He, however, lamented that the Philippines’ current efforts to address the WPS issues seem to be not working.

He said the situation in the WPS will not improve if the Philippines continues to deal with China the same way it is dealing with the current situation in the contested waters.

“We have to do something that we have not done before. We have to come up with a new concept, a new principle, a new idea so that we move, as I say, we move the needle the other way,” Marcos said.

“It’s going up, let’s move the needle back, so that paradigm shift is something that we have to formulate,” he added.

As I have said before, empty words in the form of statements or condemnations do not alter the reality on the ground (or the water, as it were). The Philippines does not have the material strength to contest Chinese efforts directly, so it is trying to gain leverage by other means like diplomacy. But nobody else is stepping up to send their own ships into harm's way. Manila is well aware that escalation is not in their interests.

“We do not want to go the point where there are incidents that might cause an actual violent conflict. Maybe from a mistake or a misunderstanding and these things happen all the time,” he said.

Marcos, however, clarified in another media interview in Tokyo on Monday that he would prefer a “less of confrontational method” to settle the issues with China.

He said the Philippines needs to be “very circumspect” in its actions to avoid unintended results.

“We have to be very careful that we do not overreact, that we do not make mistakes that might be misinterpreted by anyone,” Marcos said. “If we heightened the tensions, it won’t lead us to a good result. So, we are very circumspect in the actions that we will take.”

Therefore, CCG and so forth should continue applying pressure without making any drastic moves. The current approach is working, and whatever the Philippines tries will not alter the material reality (without major escalation, which they are avoiding). The goal should be to convince the Philippines that opposing Chinese interests is not a successful paradigm.
 

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It looks like Philippines is looking to Japan now for security, I wonder what the ancestors will think.
All talks no action, Japan is having trouble with Chinese Coast Guard in the Diaoyu Island, what support can they provide?

By the look of things, Philippine ambassador to the US, Romualdez a cousin of Marcos had a tete a tete with a senior Brandon official (most likely Sullivan) Not to escalate. You can see the result with Carpio having to clarify and backtrack some of the Philippines position rather than outright bravado.

Now China had made its intention clear, work with us or we can make life difficult for you. And to the American don't bluff cause we are not a paper tiger.
 
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