China's SCS Strategy Thread

ansy1968

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I am afraid I doubt the Philippines’ official story. If they cared so much for the welfare of their soldiers, they would not send them to such an awful posting.

At the end of the day, pipes you say are needed for plumbing can just as easily be used as scaffolding to help secure the rushing shell of the ship.

China didn’t try to stop shipments of rations and other provisions for the garrison. If they were so cruel, this whole thing would have ended a long long time ago and that ship would be a tomb.
Sir why the urgency? I think its all about the morale factor, the problem is who to station there and how many? I think the soldiers will mutiny or just surrender to CCG as there are limits for human suffering to endure. From my understanding the garrison is composed of a squad of 18 personnel, mostly technical people to maintain the ship. the garrison is due for rotation but were told to stay put. You can sense their frustration as they were told their original deployment is good for 1 month.

Just look at the optics if the garrison do voluntary surrender, I might see a scenario after a week of continuous blocking the Chinese may allowed a single crew boat to approach the ship and see the soldiers commandeered the boat and leave their post.
 

ansy1968

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This is why I criticize the wait policy of China. These ship while rusting, can survive indefinitely as long as no natural disaster hit it. It is an absolute clown fest.

Why don't China slam a ship into Guam and claim as theirs? No country should tolerate this kind of aggressive behavior. Policy made sense in the "hide military might build economic strength" phase. Right now AESAN is China aligned economically. US has no spare military might to challenge China in the region. There is no risk to escalate.
An old Chinese adage, winning by not fighting is the greatest feat of victory. If the soldiers surrender voluntary due to inhumane condition caused by the blockade then its a strategic win. I think the American will prefer it that way rather than fight a war they can't win, so everybody is happy except the Philippines.
 

ansy1968

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I think the US is taking the bait here. The more they make noise about "US will defend Philippines" the more shocking it will seem if they don't follow it up with action ala 2016. And given that US have said Diaoyu Islands are under article 5 protection but haven't done anything about nearly 365 days a year CCG patrol around there I'm not convinced US will do something in SCS, particularly now of all time.

And if by chance they do, then as others have said that's just opening the door for another Nancy Pelosi situation where PLA will take advantage of the situation for unusually thick salami slicing.
WOW!!!! We are living in a different world, usually the US always use the BIG STICK approach instead of words by deploying ship in that vicinity, now those hollow warnings meant nothing and are being ignored. ;)
 

Overbom

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Too much talk about that ship. China's dominance doesn't depend on that ship slowly falling away, or a typhoon suddenly hitting it.

China's dominance rests on its military, its economy, and its technology. Philippines, US and the whole world can obsess over that ship all they want. If China one day feels strong enough, and that it wants to do so, it can easily dominate that whole area, nevermind if that ship is standing or not.
 

Wrought

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Too much talk about that ship. China's dominance doesn't depend on that ship slowly falling away, or a typhoon suddenly hitting it.

China's dominance rests on its military, its economy, and its technology. Philippines, US and the whole world can obsess over that ship all they want. If China one day feels strong enough, and that it wants to do so, it can easily dominate that whole area, nevermind if that ship is standing or not.

Yes, the ship itself is only a proxy for the political struggle. Instead of focusing on how to remove a particular ship, people should focus on the pressure being applied to the Philippines. Philippines is not in a good spot right now, squeezed from all sides by much bigger players. It's not unique, but it is under the most pressure right now. How it deals with the situation will have ripple effects on the area going forward.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Too much talk about that ship. China's dominance doesn't depend on that ship slowly falling away, or a typhoon suddenly hitting it.

China's dominance rests on its military, its economy, and its technology. Philippines, US and the whole world can obsess over that ship all they want. If China one day feels strong enough, and that it wants to do so, it can easily dominate that whole area, nevermind if that ship is standing or not.
Marcos Jr. is impotent and an idiot for maybe believing on the b.s. that Ursula expressed during her visit to the country. Instead of asking and even gaining a guarantee of actual ECONOMIC INVESTMENTS FROM EU in exchange for siding with their ANTI-CHINA policy, Marcos enthusiastically and idiotically accepted EU rhetorical b.s. EU as an entity does not have its own military to speak of and yet Ursula spewed her garbage with such confidence that it fooled the idiot flunky from Oxford, Marcos Jr.

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Jono

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Sir the building material are for crew comfort, I'm not kidding when I said that major repair is being done on plumbing. It will damage morale when the personnel are living in misery. There is NO stable electricity, the generator can't operate 24 hours a day and what can they do to entertain themselves? I'm thinking when this soldiers return home after their rotation more likely they will become gay and leave the organization.
well, the soldiers on the ship could subscribe to China Telecom to enjoy 5G internet, LOL.
 

ansy1968

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Yes, the ship itself is only a proxy for the political struggle. Instead of focusing on how to remove a particular ship, people should focus on the pressure being applied to the Philippines. Philippines is not in a good spot right now, squeezed from all sides by much bigger players. It's not unique, but it is under the most pressure right now. How it deals with the situation will have ripple effects on the area going forward.
The irony is we have no say, the one imposing their will on us is not the US, it's our political elites and oligarch.
 
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