China's SCS Strategy Thread

hullopilllw

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Do we know the current state or have any recent pictures of the Sierra Madre,
This is a photo of the Sierra Madre in 2014.

Imagine what kind of wreck it is today. What is the media hiding?

Why don't we have any more recent picture ? China knows and does not want to tell.


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China could have easily send in 2 055s, bomb the hell out of that piece of wreck and just take over the shoal. I wonder what can the Phillipines defense even do against 2 055s.
 

Wrought

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China could have easily send in 2 055s, bomb the hell out of that piece of wreck and just take over the shoal. I wonder what can the Phillipines defense even do against 2 055s.

Beijing could have done that years ago. But they didn't, because it's not a good idea. Using military force against every problem is lazy and shortsighted and also exactly what got the US into so much trouble. Conflicts are easy to start, but difficult to end.
 

muddie

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Beijing could have done that years ago. But they didn't, because it's not a good idea. Using military force against every problem is lazy and shortsighted and also exactly what got the US into so much trouble. Conflicts are easy to start, but difficult to end.
Use of military is typically the last resort because it is unpopular (people die), extremely expensive, bad publicity internationally, and can be highly unpredictable.

A Russian acquaintance once explained to me that Russia resorts to military force every time because it does not have other tools such as sanctions or economic incentives to deal with a problem.
 

gelgoog

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A Russian acquaintance once explained to me that Russia resorts to military force every time because it does not have other tools such as sanctions or economic incentives to deal with a problem.
Russia wasted oodles of cash with Ukraine to little avail. Ukraine was also doing 50% of its overall trade with Russia, and they threw it away on a supposed association agreement with the EU. Need I remind you that Ukraine had preferred nation trading status with Russia. And by signing the association agreement with the EU they had to forfeit that. Because the EU does not allow countries with a signed association agreement to be in other trade blocks. Their MIC also lost several lucrative contracts with Russia. Their aerospace and naval sectors being majorly affected. And then there's the money they used to earn from the Crimean base lease. Also gone.

The US Deep State has several ways to manipulate the world's economies. And it is quite easy to underestimate how used they are to running influence operations.

In Ukraine's case they were experiencing a default and they were stupid enough to ask for an IMF loan. One of the conditions for the loan, for example, was that they raise consumer gas prices by 50%. Despite Russia agreeing with them to do a 30% gas discount with the Crimean base lease. So they were paying less for the gas to Russia and they were charging end customers more thanks to the IMF at one point.

In the end it did not matter that the Ukrainian President Yanukovych sought the better deal and took Russia's loan to pay its debt to the IMF and decided to remain with the preferred nation trading status with Russia. Since the US just funded a revolt in Ukraine and took him out of power.

You saw something similar happen in Hong Kong. So I do not know why you still entertain these ideas.
 
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TK3600

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China could have easily send in 2 055s, bomb the hell out of that piece of wreck and just take over the shoal. I wonder what can the Phillipines defense even do against 2 055s.
Not yet, US is making a big mistake in Middle East. Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. Once Americans commit and cannot pull out, China could deal with the ship non-lethal way.
  1. Tow the damn ship away rescue the ship from beaching
  2. block essential supply assert territorial water integrity
  3. bribe for a mutiny rescue hostage from terrorists
etc etc. There are so many methods to deal with them without killing people. But don't do it too early, otherwise US might find excuse to not go for another dumb adventure in Israel.
 

ansy1968

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Senior Colonel Zhu Bo (Ret) predicted that as China military grows stronger it will become less tolerant. -Suggested US &CN will only “cool off” after a deadly collision.
He is just stating the obvious, I don't know why the American were surprise, they just being ingenuous....lol The SCS is a Chinese lake and the Colonel is right in predicting that within 5 years it will become a pond as the Chinese will target the Second Island Chain as their future lake.

IF you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen, nobody force you to come and meddle in our neighborhood, you're NOT WELCOME here, we want to trade and even their vassals grudgingly agree.
 

hkky

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Marcos Jr. is impotent and an idiot for maybe believing on the b.s. that Ursula expressed during her visit to the country.
I am not sure Macros boarded the anti-China train because of all the promises. He has a bunch of legal troubles from his father's legacy. It is not a stretch to think they have much more dirt on him/his family and he may be making some decisions for his personal gain/protection rather than for the good of his country.

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