China's SCS Strategy Thread

[ansy1968]

But the Philippines think -- the howling American puppets -- that it can't and shouldn't back down against Chinese military confrontation because it assumed that since America is their Daddy and treaty ally, it'll come to it's defense regardless of how it conducts itself with respect to their claims or dispute in the SCS. That's the reason or one of the strong reasons why there are loud and persistent voices within the Philippines who loves to yak and open their big mouth about confronting China.

Bro the American correctly see in Aquino their puppet and they profited from it.

But if their people know the absurd reality and the disproportionate level of powe China has over the archipelago and knowing that the U.S. can't and will not die for them unless it wants the world to end then and only then these antagonistic voices along with their undue influence can end into irrelevance.

We had a defense treaty with the US and we believed they will come to our aid, we are made to look stupid when the American indicated that the SCS is not covered by the treaty. That message was delivered by Kurt Campbell himself the initiator of the crisis.

There's strong element of Filipinos that sees themselves and their history as some kind of a warrior race, I don't really have a clue where they got this impression from since they have never managed to pummel their colonizers to the point of surrender the country because of their martial prowess.

Bro the Philippine at that time was Muslim and yes it was a martial race, it change when the Spaniard start colonizing with religion spearheading that effort, it was successful except for Mindanao as they had fought off the Spaniards.

As far as I know the historical figure they love to invoke as a sign of their martial prowess is Lapu-Lapu an indigenous Chieftain that killed the Portuguese explorer (Ferdinand Magellan) who then sought and was granted an expedition from Spain who's original destination was more than likely to sail to India @ansy1968 has to correct me on this one. But instead landed into one of the archipelago's island that was Mactan, Cebu.

Bro Magellan was used by Sultan of Cebu to destroy his enemy, and he comply as a sign of goodwill. Instead he had his head chop off by Lapu-Lapu.

 

[ansy1968]

They will probably try to encourage their fishermen to test the waters beyond what's being practice at the moment per @ansy1968 comment. That's if and when one of the very pro-America candidates win the next presidential election. Plus, they will likely also request to station the missile silos that U.S. is shopping around ASEAN countries. But such a scenario is highly unlikely to happen and occur since the leading candidates in both the Presidency and V.P. slots are essentially in line with Dutertes geopolitical outlook, although that could change in the horizon since Marcos had a strong connection with the American government in the past granting his father, the late former President asylum in Hawaii when he was unceremoniously ousted from power.

@Bellum_Romanum bro it's their last straw , politically the SCS is a non issue, they especially Carpio wanted it so that he can have a say and be a kingmaker. Instead his role will be expose and question will ask who are his other accomplices.

 

[BlackWindMnt]

Bro the American correctly see in Aquino their puppet and they profited from it.

We had a defense treaty with the US and we believed they will come to our aid, we are made to look stupid when the American indicated that the SCS is not covered by the treaty. That message was delivered by Kurt Campbell himself the initiator of the crisis.

Bro the Philippine at that time was Muslim and yes it was a martial race, it change when the Spaniard start colonizing with religion spearheading that effort, it was successful except for Mindanao as they had fought off the Spaniards.

Bro Magellan was used by Sultan of Cebu to destroy his enemy, and he comply as a sign of goodwill. Instead he had his head chop off by Lapu-Lapu.

Saw his statue two years ago on lapu lapu Island. Was told the same story by the tour guide.

Had plans to visit again this year for the special edition of sinulog celibrating 500th year of Santo Nino de cebu. Always found the statue of child Jesus creepy as a child but yeah what's you gonna do with cebuano mom and aunties.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Saw his statue two years ago on lapu lapu Island. Was told the same story by the tour guide.

Had plans to visit again this year for the special edition of sinulog celibrating 500th year of Santo Nino de cebu. Always found the statue of child Jesus creepy as a child but yeah what's you gonna do with cebuano mom and aunties.

Are you Filipino or Filipino-Chinese

 

[BlackWindMnt]

Are you Filipino or Filipino-Chinese

Dad is european, mom is filipino-chinese. I believe she said her family roots are from somewhere in Guangdong.

 

[duskseeker]

But the Philippines think -- the howling American puppets -- that it can't and shouldn't back down against Chinese military confrontation because it assumed that since America is their Daddy and treaty ally, it'll come to it's defense regardless of how it conducts itself with respect to their claims or dispute in the SCS. That's the reason or one of the strong reasons why there are loud and persistent voices within the Philippines who loves to yak and open their big mouth about confronting China.

But if their people know the absurd reality and the disproportionate level of powe China has over the archipelago and knowing that the U.S. can't and will not die for them unless it wants the world to end then and only then these antagonistic voices along with their undue influence can end into irrelevance.

There's strong element of Filipinos that sees themselves and their history as some kind of a warrior race, I don't really have a clue where they got this impression from since they have never managed to pummel their colonizers to the point of surrender the country because of their martial prowess. As far as I know the historical figure they love to invoke as a sign of their martial prowess is Lapu-Lapu an indigenous Chieftain that killed the Portuguese explorer (Ferdinand Magellan) who then sought and was granted an expedition from Spain who's original destination was more than likely to sail to India @ansy1968 has to correct me on this one. But instead landed into one of the archipelago's island that was Mactan, Cebu.

The Filipino Warrior race myth is stupid. They want to be tough guys because their is a super lack of martial prowess there. Not everyone has guns so pretend to be tough. Everyone is under 5'7 so be tough. Lapu lapu from their own research shows that he never actually fought because he was too old at the time. All fights during colonial times were lost thanks to Spanish technology and discipline. They have their own propaganda since their boxer manny pacqiao holds a few fixed boxing title belts. The American daddy will back me up routine has been brought to all fights including when they had a spat with Malaysia a few year ago. "I'm gonna tell muh daddy USA, your taking muh lands" They also think they won the Korean war when they retreated from a defensive position when they killed lots of Attacking PLA. All this warrior race crap is just a giant chip on their shoulder from being tossed under the bus by Malaysians, Spaniards, Americans and Japanese. Alson they don't care to research any other militaries power and just go with hollywood. They still think that the PLA holds Soviet weaponry, they are also a big believer in eugenics saying that Chinese, Japanese or Koreans are weaker than them. Hell whenever a chinese athlete beats them in any sport which is a majority of the time the excuse is always an injury, the opponent was cheating or it was a fluke.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

That is the problem when people has no past. The Indo and Malay can look back to their past and they do have history that go back to thousand year

 

[BlackWindMnt]

That is the problem when people has no past. The Indo and Malay can look back to their past and they do have history that go back to thousand year

Filipino history should also reach that far given they had a lot of malayan cultural intermixing.

It's a shame a lot of the filipino history got destroyed by Spanish and American imperialist.

Duterte tried to changed the Philippines name to maharlika. To give the country a more regional identity. But the backlash was quiet big. So he never followed through.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Filipino history should also reach that far given they had a lot of malayan cultural intermixing.

It's a shame a lot of the filipino history got destroyed by Spanish and American imperialist.

Duterte tried to changed the Philippines name to maharlika. To give the country a more regional identity. But the backlash was quiet big. So he never followed through.

Just look at their supposed Independence Day celebration, the Philippines for some weird ass reason chose to celebrate an Independence day based upon the date that they supposedly gained independence from Spain while at the same time being occupied and colonized by the Americans from 1898 till July 4, 1946. The Americans have thoroughly brainwashed the Philippines into believing that their mission in their country was noble and did not act as their colonial master hence in my opinion they have lost the simple truth that the Philippines was an American outpost even to this day. But in the minds of many, that's more than okay.

 

[duskseeker]

That is the problem when people has no past. The Indo and Malay can look back to their past and they do have history that go back to thousand year

They laugh and look down upon other asians for eating things like bugs or innards too. Also they quietly eat bats and dogs but don't pose pics as my trip to Ilocos years ago show. The province guys know that the city folk would shame them.