China's SCS Strategy Thread

Jono

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NO strategic value my friend, maybe the one on Sabina Shoal BUT in Scarborough Shoal DEFINITELY NOT.
If indeed China goes for reclamation of the Scarborough Shoal, it would be a fencing tit-for-tat counter-move by China in response to PH/American provocations.
1, a political signal of displeasure somewhat akin to the Cuban crisis. The injury to China of PH/American stationing of Typhoon and Brahmos missile is minor but the insult is too great to be tolerated in silence.
2, there is still a significant military strategic value to China, an armed Scarborough Island is like a "sword" placed at the throat of the PH.
 

ansy1968

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If indeed China goes for reclamation of the Scarborough Shoal, it would be a fencing tit-for-tat counter-move by China in response to PH/American provocations.
1, a political signal of displeasure somewhat akin to the Cuban crisis. The injury to China of PH/American stationing of Typhoon and Brahmos missile is minor but the insult is too great to be tolerated in silence.
2, there is still a significant military strategic value to China, an armed Scarborough Island is like a "sword" placed at the throat of the PH.
Bro this will be China Strategy against the Philippines, like Taiwan a naval blockade of Luzon will suffice. there are only 3 major ports critical for the economy to function. Batangas port, Manila and Subic, all on the Western area or the SCS. Traversing that commercial route can be easily be block by the Chinese Coast Guard alone. What about the American and what will they contribute? nothing cause the Chinese had escalatory dominance, building an artifical Island is simple a waste of money and resources, plus at the end of the day you need to peaceful reconciled the dispute, we're neighbors afterall.

And having a carrot is better than using a big stick. Plus if Luzon fall the whole Philippines will go down with them.
 

ansy1968

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Since you mentioned it, in this scenario there is a big possibility that the Visayas and Mindanao regions will break away from the PH and declare their independence. Its hard to predict if the leadership of these two new entities will be friendly, neutral, or hostile to China.
Mindanao definitely, it just need a spark BUT frankly speaking the Dutertes are the one that is impeding the secession movement cause the family still believed in the Philippine nationhood movement, maybe a war with China is the spark as the locals feel they were being marginalized under the Marcos administration.

The Visayas since it's composed of many Island only Cebu, Negros and Panay will secede, while Leyte will stay because of the Romauldez influence in the Region.

We had a precedent, during WW2, the Japanese only invade the Luzon proper and when Manila Fall, the resistance from the province collapse with it, event though the struggle in Bataan is still ongoing. The reason is basic, Imperial Manila hold the economic and political thread that binds the country together. Just look at where the former US bases were located (Subic at Zambales and Clark at Pampanga) and why they insist on getting it back. And also Luzon hold the most develop region as most of the critical infrastructure like major ports, power plant and the most important oil depot are located, it's a major distribution HUB for the rest of the country.
 

GulfLander

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"President Ferdinand R. Marcos Jr. expressed optimism in maintaining the strong and dynamic relationship between the Philippines and the United States, even beyond the leadership change in the US.

During a telephone call with US Vice President Kamala Harris, President Marcos highlighted the significant progress achieved in the bilateral relationship, particularly in the areas of economics, diplomacy, and defense and security."

Why not call w Trump, but Kamala?
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Indian Coast Guard Ship (ICGS) Shaunak, recently returning from a goodwill visit to Japan, encountered significant challenges as it traversed the waters west of Scarborough Shoal. The vessel was shadowed by the China Coast Guard (CCG) 3304, highlighting ongoing tensions in the South China Sea. Concurrently, China’s “Monster” ship, CCG 5901, was engaged with the Philippines Coast Guard vessel BRP Gabriella Silang east of the shoal.

Indians crying about China's ships in SCS. They have some delusional fantasies of somehow they can block the Malacca strait when AR happens and arming Philippines to counter China in the SCS. In all of Quad, I think the only country dumb enough to commit to military force to counter China during AR is India.


The Americans wants to raise tension the SCS right now.


Even though the Vietnamese govt/party is acting all nice to China recently, they have just accelerated their island building in the SCS actually.
 
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