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Jura The idiot
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China protests U.S. warship approaching reef of Nansha Islands
Xinhua| 2017-08-11 01:46:29
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China protests U.S. warship approaching reef of Nansha Islands
Xinhua| 2017-08-11 01:46:29
Dizasta1
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This freedom of navigation tactic is just to stir up China and to reassure American allies that American Navy is present there. It's more of an International Political tactic than a military one. All China needs to do, is study the international laws regarding freedom of navigation, exclusive economic zones and come up with the best way to render this tactic sterile. There are many ways China can do this, some of them are by populating the area in concern with establishing commercial ferry terminal. By increasing domestic civilian traffic, the navies of other countries would be forced to avoid those water ways.
China need to not get all huffy puffy about these so called Freedom of Navigation excursions. They just need to be smart about this. Exercizing their right to establish ferry terminals for Chinese citizens to travel between islands and main land makes the case from a military matter, to one of protecting civilians. And that, America would not mess with.
Remember, tactics likes these, as used by America, are only to make China commit a mistake. You have to be smarter than that and show it by restraint and counter tactics (non-military).
China need to not get all huffy puffy about these so called Freedom of Navigation excursions. They just need to be smart about this. Exercizing their right to establish ferry terminals for Chinese citizens to travel between islands and main land makes the case from a military matter, to one of protecting civilians. And that, America would not mess with.
Remember, tactics likes these, as used by America, are only to make China commit a mistake. You have to be smarter than that and show it by restraint and counter tactics (non-military).
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Guess it is not just idle talk they actually put money where there mouth is . It will improve the living condition on those big 3 island for Electricity, desalination plant, oil and gas exploration, production and even tourism. Advance the research in small nuclear reactor that can be used in Nuclear Carrier
Securing power in the South China Sea: Beijing’s plans for floating nuclear reactors get US$150 million boost
Joint venture company is expected to develop new technologies to boost China’s maritime nuclear capabilities
PUBLISHED : Friday, 11 August, 2017, 7:10pm
11 Aug 2017
China has announced plans to bolster its maritime nuclear capabilities with the creation of a major new joint venture project, which could also provide the catalyst for the development of floating reactors in the South China Sea and beyond.
State-owned China National Nuclear Power announced on Thursday it was establishing the new company – with registered capital of one billion yuan (US$150 million) – in cooperation with Zhejiang Zheneng Electric Power, Shanghai Guosheng Group, Jiangnan Shipyard and Shanghai Electric.
The joint venture will seek to strengthen China’s nuclear power capabilities in line with its ambitions to “become a strong maritime power”, the company said in a statement.
It will also support China’s “Belt and Road Initiative”, which aims to boost trade and infrastructure links with nations across Asia and Africa.
The statement did not say how or where the technologies will be used, but observers said it is likely they will be deployed in areas such as the South China Sea.
In a separate notice the state power giant said the new company will also seek to promote the development of nuclear-powered vessels.
Wang Yiren, vice-director of the State Administration for Science, Technology and Industry for National Defence, said earlier this year that the expansion of China’s nuclear energy capabilities was a vital part of its five-year plan. The country will prioritise the development of a floating nuclear power platform in order to support its offshore oil and gas activities, and its presence in the Paracel and Spratly Islands, he told state media.
Wang’s comments came after Beijing said in a white paper last year that it was developing floating nuclear power plants to facilitate the exploration of maritime resources.
China Securities Journal reported last year that China could build up to 20 floating nuclear plants in the region to “speed up the commercial development” of the South China Sea.
Beijing has increasingly been flexing its muscles in the South China Sea, with the development of artificial islands and more frequent naval patrols. It has declared sovereignty over 85 per cent of the region and is engaged in multiple territorial disputes with its neighbours.
Collin Koh, a military expert from the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies at Singapore's Nanyang Technology University, said maritime nuclear power plants have a wide range of uses, and their presence would have both symbolic and practical purposes.
As well as producing electricity for Chinese infrastructure in the disputed waters, they could offer a long-term solution to the country’s water supply problems with the provision of desalination facilities, and support China’s status as a maritime power, he said.
Such facilities will also enable China’s military to take a step closer to developing a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, he said.
“China sees securing the ability to develop marine nuclear tech as a manifestation of its maritime power status,” Koh said. “It will enhance Beijing’s staying power and assert its claims, as military garrisons and civilian personnel living on those remote outposts would be able to sustain themselves better [and therefore stay longer].”
Carlyle Thayer, a regional security expert at the Australian Defence Force Academy, said that if nuclear power plants were built in the South China Sea, Beijing would have to provide security for them.
“It makes living conditions and life there much improved, and it’s a sign of Chinese permanence,” he said. “The more infrastructure China puts on there ... they can say, we’re only doing necessary defence to protect our people and our facilities.”
Although the nuclear power plants would have both military and civilian uses, it would “raise the cost of the conflict” in the region, he said.
Kai Ji-jung, chair professor of nuclear engineering at City University of Hong Kong, said that while the technology for floating nuclear plants is not yet mature, countries such as China and the US are putting “tremendous amounts of effort” into developing it.
Floating plants are typically much smaller than onshore ones, with no more than a quarter of the electricity production capability, he said.
“Their purpose is to be mobile, so they can float to any harbour or any island, so you have remote electricity,” he said.
Securing power in the South China Sea: Beijing’s plans for floating nuclear reactors get US$150 million boost
Joint venture company is expected to develop new technologies to boost China’s maritime nuclear capabilities
PUBLISHED : Friday, 11 August, 2017, 7:10pm
11 Aug 2017
China has announced plans to bolster its maritime nuclear capabilities with the creation of a major new joint venture project, which could also provide the catalyst for the development of floating reactors in the South China Sea and beyond.
State-owned China National Nuclear Power announced on Thursday it was establishing the new company – with registered capital of one billion yuan (US$150 million) – in cooperation with Zhejiang Zheneng Electric Power, Shanghai Guosheng Group, Jiangnan Shipyard and Shanghai Electric.
The joint venture will seek to strengthen China’s nuclear power capabilities in line with its ambitions to “become a strong maritime power”, the company said in a statement.
It will also support China’s “Belt and Road Initiative”, which aims to boost trade and infrastructure links with nations across Asia and Africa.
The statement did not say how or where the technologies will be used, but observers said it is likely they will be deployed in areas such as the South China Sea.
In a separate notice the state power giant said the new company will also seek to promote the development of nuclear-powered vessels.
Wang Yiren, vice-director of the State Administration for Science, Technology and Industry for National Defence, said earlier this year that the expansion of China’s nuclear energy capabilities was a vital part of its five-year plan. The country will prioritise the development of a floating nuclear power platform in order to support its offshore oil and gas activities, and its presence in the Paracel and Spratly Islands, he told state media.
Wang’s comments came after Beijing said in a white paper last year that it was developing floating nuclear power plants to facilitate the exploration of maritime resources.
China Securities Journal reported last year that China could build up to 20 floating nuclear plants in the region to “speed up the commercial development” of the South China Sea.
Beijing has increasingly been flexing its muscles in the South China Sea, with the development of artificial islands and more frequent naval patrols. It has declared sovereignty over 85 per cent of the region and is engaged in multiple territorial disputes with its neighbours.
Collin Koh, a military expert from the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies at Singapore's Nanyang Technology University, said maritime nuclear power plants have a wide range of uses, and their presence would have both symbolic and practical purposes.
As well as producing electricity for Chinese infrastructure in the disputed waters, they could offer a long-term solution to the country’s water supply problems with the provision of desalination facilities, and support China’s status as a maritime power, he said.
Such facilities will also enable China’s military to take a step closer to developing a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, he said.
“China sees securing the ability to develop marine nuclear tech as a manifestation of its maritime power status,” Koh said. “It will enhance Beijing’s staying power and assert its claims, as military garrisons and civilian personnel living on those remote outposts would be able to sustain themselves better [and therefore stay longer].”
Carlyle Thayer, a regional security expert at the Australian Defence Force Academy, said that if nuclear power plants were built in the South China Sea, Beijing would have to provide security for them.
“It makes living conditions and life there much improved, and it’s a sign of Chinese permanence,” he said. “The more infrastructure China puts on there ... they can say, we’re only doing necessary defence to protect our people and our facilities.”
Although the nuclear power plants would have both military and civilian uses, it would “raise the cost of the conflict” in the region, he said.
Kai Ji-jung, chair professor of nuclear engineering at City University of Hong Kong, said that while the technology for floating nuclear plants is not yet mature, countries such as China and the US are putting “tremendous amounts of effort” into developing it.
Floating plants are typically much smaller than onshore ones, with no more than a quarter of the electricity production capability, he said.
“Their purpose is to be mobile, so they can float to any harbour or any island, so you have remote electricity,” he said.
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Jura The idiot
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Jura The idiot
General
US chose a few years ago to keep Senkaku Islands under the treaty with Japanese government and it will be like this forever after that. It's nothing new to the fact that US will stand up in case of PRC trying to take over Senkakus so it shouldn't be even be posted here. The first news few years ago was, now it's a standard.
And every time Japan feels insecure they would ask US to say that over and over again, and of course US got nothing to lose by paying lip service. But whatever it will actually happen or down down the line is another matter, US is not stupid, everything for them is a trade off, Japan, Korea everyone not US is just another pawn for sacrifice depends on the prize.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Soon a month of amphibious exercise in front of the gate of Vietnam
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Since the beginning of August, the corps of marines of the Chinese navy seems to be maneuvering in the northern Gulf of Tonkin, near the Sino-Vietnamese border, conducting a series of amphibious exercise with real shots .
If one believes in the maritime warning notifications that indicate the restricted areas reserved for the military, this amphibious exercise should have started on 1 August and it is still ongoing, until Wednesday 23 at least.
It should be noted that the firing zones progressively shift towards the West, in the direction of Vietnam, as the exercise progresses, before returning more towards the East. The nearest area was only about fifty kilometers from the Vietnamese coast.
The areas of maneuver of the Chinese marines since August 1 (Images: East Pendulum)
According to the official photos and publications of the Chinese army, who did not want to reveal the exact location of the site, the Chinese marines deployed anti-aircraft units, heavy artillery and Armored vehicles, such as the PLZ-07B howitzer , the amphibious assault tank ZTD-05 or the amphibious infantry combat vehicle ZBD-05 .
According to a CCTV-7 television commentary, an "amphibious training campaign" around thirty different subjects, including underwater demolition, amphibious assault, Strikes against targets at sea and on the ground ... etc.
BY
Since the beginning of August, the corps of marines of the Chinese navy seems to be maneuvering in the northern Gulf of Tonkin, near the Sino-Vietnamese border, conducting a series of amphibious exercise with real shots .
If one believes in the maritime warning notifications that indicate the restricted areas reserved for the military, this amphibious exercise should have started on 1 August and it is still ongoing, until Wednesday 23 at least.
It should be noted that the firing zones progressively shift towards the West, in the direction of Vietnam, as the exercise progresses, before returning more towards the East. The nearest area was only about fifty kilometers from the Vietnamese coast.
The areas of maneuver of the Chinese marines since August 1 (Images: East Pendulum)
According to the official photos and publications of the Chinese army, who did not want to reveal the exact location of the site, the Chinese marines deployed anti-aircraft units, heavy artillery and Armored vehicles, such as the PLZ-07B howitzer , the amphibious assault tank ZTD-05 or the amphibious infantry combat vehicle ZBD-05 .
According to a CCTV-7 television commentary, an "amphibious training campaign" around thirty different subjects, including underwater demolition, amphibious assault, Strikes against targets at sea and on the ground ... etc.