US military act as a stabilizer to the Philippine nation, without it, easily become a fail state with that many islands and insurgencies, rebels running around. Really, Philippine could fall apart anytime soon and become another Somalia and you have pirates situation there. The country is just 1 step away from chaos and you'll have looting incidents and burning of factories, riots. So economic considerations have to be taken. Long time ago, that island nations area are infested and haven for pirates. US and Philippine each year have to do special operation to cleanse those muslim rebels and pirates. The protection of shipping is actually crucial and true fear\concern of US not from the Chinese fishermen but actually from the Philippines pirates and we don't need armed fishermen from China to cause more troubles. Civilians should not get involve and let each nation coast guard deal with it.
China's SCS Strategy Thread
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US military act as a stabilizer to the Philippine nation, without it, easily become a fail state with that many islands and insurgencies, rebels running around. Really, Philippine could fall apart anytime soon and become another Somalia and you have pirates situation there. The country is just 1 step away from chaos and you'll have looting incidents and burning of factories, riots. So economic considerations have to be taken. Long time ago, that island nations area are infested and haven for pirates. US and Philippine each year have to do special operation to cleanse those muslim rebels and pirates. The protection of shipping is actually crucial and true fear\concern of US not from the Chinese fishermen but actually from the Philippines pirates and we don't need armed fishermen from China to cause more troubles. Civilians should not get involve and let each nation coast guard deal with it.
Agree, Philippine cannot control all of its resources\people and recent typhoon where they depended heavily for foreign aid and their government response was failure. Anytime, corruption can bring down their government, some sparks cause of riots and insurgencies whatever the cause. Muslims fighting Christians, clans vs other clans and politicians are self serving. Armed militia, pirates, rebels and you name it.
The SCS dispute actually serves as a rallying cause, so call 'nationalism' to unite the Filipino from their internal problems and their government using this to deflect away these issues and maintain grip of power. That's what politicians are for anyway, serve their self interest and whatever you can sell away, you sell...be it a base for US Navy, or an island for China or so forth
I doubt US afraid their weapons studied by the Russian, US is an innovative country in weapons design with many foreign partners. They can sell 2nd or 3rd rate weapons, technologies that already outdated but still pack potent punch but only thing is expensive due to dollar. Still Vietnam can afford some in their current economic state. That's why its a bit sad, they rioted and destroy some of their economic lifeline, what they need is more business, and more business means more money, more money means more weapon from US,French, Russian etc they can buy to drive our those pesky Chinese from their island Hong Sha, Trong Sha or whatever Sha it is. War needs money you know...exchange textiles, electronics, goods for M16, F16, Scorpenes and so on.
Island is immovable, would be easy to put some arresting gears on the mini island and some ramps. Then China would have 2 aircraft carrier
The again, if others know Chinese fishermen might have AK47 and RPG, they would much less likely to get close to fishing board. Unless, the they are fighting cannon, torpedo or missiles but that's unlikely.
It;s well known US very concern if equipments selling taiwan might fall into the hands of PLA.
also US forcing EU to continue the ARM embargo against China afraid China might open up EU's system and study what's inside.
IF you claim US is not afraid, then they wouldn't be so hard up on EU arm embargo on China.
I think it is a much more complicated issue.
This is not an If-Else statement; the US/EU upholding the arms embargo does not automatically mean that they are mainly afraid that the Chinese would open up the EU systems to study them. They could be afraid simply that China will use those "ADVACED" weapons against the US.
Alternatively, it could simply be a pledge of allegiance to the US order; to make the US feel better.
It is like Russia; Russia is military weak compared to Nato, why drum up the Russian Bear? there isn't much to fear. I am not saying it is the main reason, but some times you just need a common enemy to make an alliance work.
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HANOI, Vietnam — Vietnam's prime minister sent a text message to millions of citizens urging them to act in defense of the country's sovereignty following China's deployment of on oil rig in disputed waters, but said that "bad elements" shouldn't be allowed to engage in violence.
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We can see the power of an sms can inflame an entire country.
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TAIPEI: Vietnam's de facto ambassador to Taiwan on Friday gave a "personal" apology after anti-China protesters ravaged hundreds of Taiwanese factories in his country this week, and said some 1,000 people have been arrested over the violence.
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Then rushing to contain the diplomatic fallout...