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[canniBUS]

We all know who these people who don't wear uniforms are, but not wearing uniforms means that they don't appear as government personnel.You can see that the police are standing there doing nothing, letting these people who don't wear uniforms do "dirty work".

As a family who was also victimized, it was hard for me to contain my anger.I've seen too many things without results.

As a relatively weak side, what China can rely on is the support of its own people.But some people don't seem to care who is supporting them.The "Second Republic" is undoubtedly divorced from the original mass base,but they dare not rely on the ambitious bourgeoisie,so they hung in the air and no longer trusted anyone.

It is meaningless to compare who is worse. What the people hope for is progress and the return of the "revolutionary tradition".Today, the people still have to face the situation that Mao Zedong was worried about: "A huge civil service organization with hundreds of thousands of people has a high probability of problems."

Since the government has great management power, don't try to shirk responsibility when problems arise.China does not have a strong social Darwinian environment，the people have high requirements for political clarity and efficiency, and have a strong sense of vigilance against bureaucratic groups.Although many corruption cases have been exposed, people can still realize that the means of bureaucratic groups' black box operation have not been solved, and many people become civil servants only for the purpose of "making a profit".

The era of the "first Republic" was not beautiful, but at least there were some severely tested revolutionaries,but in the era of peace, there are only mediocre people left.These selfish bureaucrats can't understand the meaning of "people's power"，the arrogant and obviously patriarchal title "parent official"(父母官） has become the norm.

Mao is a great leader that cannot be copied. No one is qualified to become his successor now.How to prevent the corruption of the vanguard is still a problem worth pondering.
CPC had to be reformed into a more efficient organization, and some ridiculed their thinking as still being stuck in the era of the influence of pamphlet communications, lacking the most basic knowledge of the psychology of the masses under the influence of modern media tools

The premature adoption of loose policies for finance has led to today's situation,we used to laugh at the subprime mortgage crisis in the United States,but we still chose to eat this "poison" in the end.This year is doomed to be a bad year. Once in trouble, it is difficult to imagine whether there will be more such events in the future.

At present, the external situation is difficult to improve in the short term, and China is bound to face a slow and painful stage of internal adjustment.

What China needs right now is a leader like Joseph Stalin to clean out both government and society. There are a whole generation of people in China who have fallen for western propaganda and believe in liberalism. They need to be removed from any decision making positions and put to work doing productive labor for China, for example by mining for uranium.

 

[zhangjim]

Very insightful. although I don’t think this year will be a bad year for China, I do feel it will be a bad year for us in the west tbh.

Given your understanding of the mechanizations of Chinese bureaucracy, what do you think should have been the right solution For China to make local buracrats accountable? Democracy?

I'm not a sociologist, so it's hard for me to propose a systematic solution.In countries around the world, the opacity of bureaucratic groups is always the biggest problem.Perhaps only automated management can save mankind from the trap of "risk aversion".

What China needs right now is a leader like Joseph Stalin to clean out both government and society. There are a whole generation of people in China who have fallen for western propaganda and believe in liberalism. They need to be removed from any decision making positions and put to work doing productive labor for China, for example by mining for uranium.

"Conforming to Western values" is the worst practice of Chinese elitists.These pretentious "social elites" have completely become propagandists of interest groups.
But now it is not the era of strong man politics, and it is dangerous to rely too much on "leaders".

Some people reflect that in the past, the political enthusiasm of the people was excessively consumed in the process of national construction, and materialists should not exaggerate the role of spiritual power. When the huge material gap is in front of us, all beliefs are destroyed.

The question of ideological line will become an unavoidable problem when the situation worsens in the future.Capitalists can escape with their property at any time,only workers will support this country.

 

[Sleepyjam]

The premature adoption of loose policies for finance has led to today's situation,we used to laugh at the subprime mortgage crisis in the United States,but we still chose to eat this "poison" in the end.This year is doomed to be a bad year. Once in trouble, it is difficult to imagine whether there will be more such events in the future.

It is a criminal case involving fraud nothing like the subprime mortgage crises which was legal and widespread involving mortgage derivatives. Anyway I would not trust people who make bad financial choices to make accurate predictions on the Chinese economy.

 

[zhangjim]

It is a criminal case involving fraud nothing like the subprime mortgage crises which was legal and widespread involving mortgage derivatives. Anyway I would not trust people who make bad financial choices to make accurate predictions on the Chinese economy.

There are many problems that you can't explain at all.
There is one thing that makes things worse quickly：A few days ago，the frozen bank account was suddenly unsealed for half an hour without warning,then some money was withdrawn.

There is no reasonable explanation for this matter so far,there are suspicions that the government is helping those involved in the case to move their assets.
Then after the central government issued a warning,some depositors' health codes are marked in red again.

All this is too bad. It is easy to suspect that the government is deliberately shielding criminals.

 

[Sleepyjam]

There are many problems that you can't explain at all.
There is one thing that makes things worse quickly：A few days ago，the frozen bank account was suddenly unsealed for half an hour without warning,then some money was withdrawn.

There is no reasonable explanation for this matter so far,there are suspicions that the government is helping those involved in the case to move their assets.
Then after the central government issued a warning,some depositors' health codes are marked in red again.

All this is too bad. It is easy to suspect that the government is deliberately shielding criminals.

Which account and how much? How was it discovered? You know which account was unsealed and for how long but not how much was withdrawn? What’s your source?

 

[zhangjim]

Which account and how much? How was it discovered? You know which account was unsealed and for how long but not how much was withdrawn? What’s your source?

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I'm not a nonsense person.This article describes the details of many cases.
The latter part of the article mentioned this matter.At noon on June 26, the mobile banking app withdrawal channel was briefly opened for about 40 minutes. A depositor in Shanghai withdrew all the 270000 principal.

The bank claims that this is a bug in the app and will not appear after the updated version.But this "coincidence" will undoubtedly aggravate people's suspicion.

 

[luosifen]

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Authority in C.China Henan cites 'switch of systems' after some rural bank depositors' health codes turn red again

By Global Times-Agencies Published: Jul 08, 2022 05:15 PM

Photo: Screenshot from Sina Weibo
Some depositors of several rural banks in Central China's Henan found their health code turned red again starting Thursday, and local health commission said the situation was caused by a switch of [health code] systems.

A Henan Health Commission hot line operator told media they have noted information of relevant personnel and the error will be fixed soon.

As of press time, some depositors' health codes have returned green already.

The error received wide attention as it has

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Some depositors of small rural banks, registered in Henan Province and reportedly caught in illegal fundraising, found their health codes turned red for unknown reasons when they tried to arrive in Henan to withdraw their money, prompting suspicions of abuse of the health code system in the province.

Later investigation by discipline authorities found officials of provincial capital Zhengzhou's epidemic prevention and control headquarters made the decision without authorization and asked a big data firm to conduct the change.

It was estimated that 1,317 clients with savings in the rural banks had their health codes changed

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after the discipline inspection.

The new error from Thursday prompted further debate on local management of the system which is at core of China's COVID prevention strategy.

In June, the discipline inspection statement said those officials' act severely damaged the seriousness of the regulations governing the use of health codes, and left an extremely bad social influence.

Global Times-Agencies

 

[zhangjim]

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Authority in C.China Henan cites 'switch of systems' after some rural bank depositors' health codes turn red again

By Global Times-Agencies Published: Jul 08, 2022 05:15 PM

Photo: Screenshot from Sina Weibo
Some depositors of several rural banks in Central China's Henan found their health code turned red again starting Thursday, and local health commission said the situation was caused by a switch of [health code] systems.

A Henan Health Commission hot line operator told media they have noted information of relevant personnel and the error will be fixed soon.

As of press time, some depositors' health codes have returned green already.

The error received wide attention as it has

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Some depositors of small rural banks, registered in Henan Province and reportedly caught in illegal fundraising, found their health codes turned red for unknown reasons when they tried to arrive in Henan to withdraw their money, prompting suspicions of abuse of the health code system in the province.

Later investigation by discipline authorities found officials of provincial capital Zhengzhou's epidemic prevention and control headquarters made the decision without authorization and asked a big data firm to conduct the change.

It was estimated that 1,317 clients with savings in the rural banks had their health codes changed

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after the discipline inspection.

The new error from Thursday prompted further debate on local management of the system which is at core of China's COVID prevention strategy.

In June, the discipline inspection statement said those officials' act severely damaged the seriousness of the regulations governing the use of health codes, and left an extremely bad social influence.

Global Times-Agencies

This is a fatal "coincidence".
Everyone is paying attention to this matter. If you want to calm down, I'm afraid a few explanations are not enough.

 

[Blitzo]

This is a fatal "coincidence".
Everyone is paying attention to this matter. If you want to calm down, I'm afraid a few explanations are not enough.

Elements of local governance being incompetent or trying to use their power to improperly manage an issue is nothing new.

There is a reason why Chinese trust in central government is much higher than local government. I'm not exactly sure why this matter in particular is so worrying for you, given decades of past similar events.

 

[Sleepyjam]

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I'm not a nonsense person.This article describes the details of many cases.
The latter part of the article mentioned this matter.At noon on June 26, the mobile banking app withdrawal channel was briefly opened for about 40 minutes. A depositor in Shanghai withdrew all the 270000 principal.

The bank claims that this is a bug in the app and will not appear after the updated version.But this "coincidence" will undoubtedly aggravate people's suspicion.

It actually said that the withdraw was open to all for 40 minutes not just to that particular account. You made it sound like only that particular account was unsealed.