I do support that (such as discussion of say 1989 june 4th and what led up to it as an example), but kind of not right now.
I would say after taking back Taiwan at the very least/earliest.
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'Hermes of ice cream' Zhong Xue Gao defends its product's safety after videos show it doesn't melt even with the help of a flame
By Global Times Published: Jul 06, 2022 02:31 PM
Zhong Xue Gao, Chicecream Photo: VCG
Dubbed the "Hermes of ice cream" or the "ice cream overkill" due to its surprisingly high price, Chinese ice cream brand Zhong Xue Gao, or Chicecream, had to defend its adherence to food safety and quality standards again on Wednesday. The new controversy faced by the ice cream company was caused by a video circulating online since Tuesday that shows one of its star products resisting the flame of a lighter without melting. The video has led consumers to question the possibly excessive use of artificial thickeners and additives in the production of the ice cream.
In a statement issued on China's Twitter-like Sina Weibo, the company said that its Salt Coconut ice cream, which has caught public attention due to the video, is mainly made of milk (35.8 percent), light cream (19.2 percent), coconut milk (11.2 percent), sweetened condensed milk (7.4 percent) and whole milk powder (6 percent). It contains more than 40 percent solid matter, which is 20 percent higher than the national standard.
As to the thickener Carrageenan, which the public expressed concern about, it is a natural extract of red algae and is widely used in ice cream and beverages production to help the stability of the milk proteins in these products. The amount of Carrageenan in the Salt Coconut ice cream is 0.032 grams and is in accordance with the national standards, read the statement.
Food safety is a major issue and Zhong Xue Gao always upholds high quality as a core value.
Market supervision authority told media that they had noted the video and reported it to the related authorities.
The customer service of Zhong Xue Gao told the media that their ice cream normally melts in 3-5 minutes. It is the first time that the staff hears of an ice cream not melting when burnt. The staff declared they have recorded the issue and an official response will be given at a later time, media reported.
In the statement, Zhong Xue Gao vows to cooperate with related authorities in the investigation.
Before this controversy, the company has already faced criticism because of a few videos showing that their ice cream would not melt after being placed at a room temperature of 31C for about one hour or being baked by a flamethrower that produces fire at about 1,500 C degrees.
In a statement on Weibo on July 2, Zhong Xue Gao said that among their products there was no ice cream that would not melt. The Salt Coconut ice cream seemed not to melt in the temperature of 31 C because it contains a high percentage of solid matter, soinstead of completely melting in a puddle of liquid, it just becomes a sticky blob.
Since its foundation in 2018, Zhong Xue Gao has become famous and has been quite controversial for its high prices. In the historically hot summer this year, many Chinese netizens flooded to social media platforms complaining over the growing prices of ice cream and suggesting that cheaper brands are just as good.
The Salt Coconut mentioned above is sold at a retail price of 17 yuan ($2.5) at the brand's flagship shop in Taobao.
The most expensive product of the company was called Ecuador Pink and it was sold in 2018 at a retail price of 66 yuan.
In an interview with Beijing TV in April 2021, the company's founder Lin Sheng defended his products' high prices explaining that it was due to the high-quality materials used in their production.
Taking the Ecuador Pink as an example, Lin said it was mainly made of pink cocoa powder extracted from a plant growing in South American countries and Japanese shaddock juice and its production cost was almost 40 yuan.
Lin said its gross profits were just "a little bit higher" than those of traditional ice creams.
Heated debate over the high prices of ice creams was recently revived on Chinese social media platforms as many netizens complained about the "ice cream overkill": many describe how they often casually pick up an ice cream from the freezer at a shop only to find out the unexpectedly high prices of the product.
Some netizens flooded to social media platforms to remind the public of traditional ice cream with cheaper prices and less addictive marketing tactics.
A Beijing resident surnamed Yang told the Global Times that she once bought a box of Zhong Xue Gao ice cream when it was on offer. "It really tasted good but I would not have bought it if it hadn't been discounted. There are many other options at much lower prices that are just as good," Yang said.
Some others try to defend the high prices of ice creams. "The price and the cost of a normal Zhong Xue Gao ice cream is similar to that of one cup of milk tea, so why do people criticize the prices of Zhong Xue Gao when they'd readily spend the same money for a cup of milk tea?" a Weibo user commented.
"If you think it is too expensive, you can choose not to buy it. But, of course, I oppose ice 'cream overkill', also the sellers should mark the prices clearly," said another.
Global Times
'Hermes of ice cream' Zhong Xue Gao defends its product's safety after videos show it doesn't melt even with the help of a flame
By Global Times Published: Jul 06, 2022 02:31 PM
Zhong Xue Gao, Chicecream Photo: VCG
Dubbed the "Hermes of ice cream" or the "ice cream overkill" due to its surprisingly high price, Chinese ice cream brand Zhong Xue Gao, or Chicecream, had to defend its adherence to food safety and quality standards again on Wednesday. The new controversy faced by the ice cream company was caused by a video circulating online since Tuesday that shows one of its star products resisting the flame of a lighter without melting. The video has led consumers to question the possibly excessive use of artificial thickeners and additives in the production of the ice cream.
In a statement issued on China's Twitter-like Sina Weibo, the company said that its Salt Coconut ice cream, which has caught public attention due to the video, is mainly made of milk (35.8 percent), light cream (19.2 percent), coconut milk (11.2 percent), sweetened condensed milk (7.4 percent) and whole milk powder (6 percent). It contains more than 40 percent solid matter, which is 20 percent higher than the national standard.
As to the thickener Carrageenan, which the public expressed concern about, it is a natural extract of red algae and is widely used in ice cream and beverages production to help the stability of the milk proteins in these products. The amount of Carrageenan in the Salt Coconut ice cream is 0.032 grams and is in accordance with the national standards, read the statement.
Food safety is a major issue and Zhong Xue Gao always upholds high quality as a core value.
Market supervision authority told media that they had noted the video and reported it to the related authorities.
The customer service of Zhong Xue Gao told the media that their ice cream normally melts in 3-5 minutes. It is the first time that the staff hears of an ice cream not melting when burnt. The staff declared they have recorded the issue and an official response will be given at a later time, media reported.
In the statement, Zhong Xue Gao vows to cooperate with related authorities in the investigation.
Before this controversy, the company has already faced criticism because of a few videos showing that their ice cream would not melt after being placed at a room temperature of 31C for about one hour or being baked by a flamethrower that produces fire at about 1,500 C degrees.
In a statement on Weibo on July 2, Zhong Xue Gao said that among their products there was no ice cream that would not melt. The Salt Coconut ice cream seemed not to melt in the temperature of 31 C because it contains a high percentage of solid matter, soinstead of completely melting in a puddle of liquid, it just becomes a sticky blob.
Since its foundation in 2018, Zhong Xue Gao has become famous and has been quite controversial for its high prices. In the historically hot summer this year, many Chinese netizens flooded to social media platforms complaining over the growing prices of ice cream and suggesting that cheaper brands are just as good.
The Salt Coconut mentioned above is sold at a retail price of 17 yuan ($2.5) at the brand's flagship shop in Taobao.
The most expensive product of the company was called Ecuador Pink and it was sold in 2018 at a retail price of 66 yuan.
In an interview with Beijing TV in April 2021, the company's founder Lin Sheng defended his products' high prices explaining that it was due to the high-quality materials used in their production.
Taking the Ecuador Pink as an example, Lin said it was mainly made of pink cocoa powder extracted from a plant growing in South American countries and Japanese shaddock juice and its production cost was almost 40 yuan.
Lin said its gross profits were just "a little bit higher" than those of traditional ice creams.
Heated debate over the high prices of ice creams was recently revived on Chinese social media platforms as many netizens complained about the "ice cream overkill": many describe how they often casually pick up an ice cream from the freezer at a shop only to find out the unexpectedly high prices of the product.
Some netizens flooded to social media platforms to remind the public of traditional ice cream with cheaper prices and less addictive marketing tactics.
A Beijing resident surnamed Yang told the Global Times that she once bought a box of Zhong Xue Gao ice cream when it was on offer. "It really tasted good but I would not have bought it if it hadn't been discounted. There are many other options at much lower prices that are just as good," Yang said.
Some others try to defend the high prices of ice creams. "The price and the cost of a normal Zhong Xue Gao ice cream is similar to that of one cup of milk tea, so why do people criticize the prices of Zhong Xue Gao when they'd readily spend the same money for a cup of milk tea?" a Weibo user commented.
"If you think it is too expensive, you can choose not to buy it. But, of course, I oppose ice 'cream overkill', also the sellers should mark the prices clearly," said another.
Global Times
A massive article, see link for all of it...
10 years on, with growing confidence, China’s Gen-Z finds the West no longer attractive: GT surveys
Published: Jul 08, 2022 01:01 AM
Photo: VCG
Editor's Note:
When it comes to rapid domestic development and global ascendance, there is hardly any parallel to what China has achieved over the past decade. In a poll conducted by the Global Times Research Center in 2012, over half of foreign respondents viewed China as a "world power." But Chinese people were humbler, with only 34.9 percent of Chinese respondents to a 2014 survey seeing their country as a world power, despite China's rise to become the world's second-largest economy.
However, a decade later, with growing interactions with the world and remarkable domestic development, Chinese people, especially the Generation-Z, have become increasingly confident. Most Chinese youths no longer blindly admire the West and have started to see the outside world, especially the West, on an equal footing. Beyond the growing confidence of the country as a major power, Chinese people are now starting to think about how China should reshape the world.
Through in-depth analysis on the survey results conducted by the Global Times Research Center over the past 10 years, the Global Times aims to explore why Chinese people are becoming more and more confident. This is the first of the two-part analysis, which shows that behind these changes is a great boost of China's national strength and image.
Being humble is quite a traditional characteristic of the Chinese people ingrained in Chinese culture, and the surveys done by the Global Times Research Center in past 10 years just found that when most foreigners considered China to be a world power, most Chinese still couldn't believe their country was powerful enough to make such a claim. Surveys and interviews with experts and voluntary participants revealed that Chinese people held stricter standards for their own country, and they didn't want to admit to success lest they appeared conceited or arrogant.
10 years ago, when talking about the compliments from the West on China's development, many Chinese appeared to be cautious. In Chinese culture, there is a concept called "Pengsha" which means to make someone conceited by flattering, so that he/she will stop working hard or will make mistakes, which is a classic way to cheat rivals in competition. So when the Western countries, especially the US, are talking about China's rise and capability and say that China is a "free-rider" of the Western-dominated world order and that it should be a "responsible stakeholder," many Chinese see this as a case of "Pengsha," said analysts.
The questionnaire in 2012 had covered eight countries including 7,045 interviewees aged 18-64 from the US, the UK, Germany, Japan, Russia, India, South Africa and Brazil, and 19 percent of them believed "China has already become a super power in terms of comprehensive national strength," and 34 percent of them believed China was a "world power."
At the end of 2011, the Global Times Research Center surveyed people from major cities across China, and among them there were only 14.1 percent interviewees who considered China a world power while 51.3 percent of them said "China is not yet a world power" and 33.4 percent of them said "China is not a world power at all."
Zhang Yiwu, a professor at Peking University, said "this is normal. Because foreigners could see China's growing global influence more clearly and directly than Chinese people who live in China," and the most crucial reason is that China still got many problems and difficulties that need to be solved amid the process of its fast development, so Chinese people have higher expectations and stricter demands toward their own country.
Jin Canrong, associate dean of the School of International Studies at the Renmin University of China, said that those Westerners who criticized China for not having freedom of speech have no idea what's been going on among Chinese social media in the past decade.
"Quite a number of Chinese netizens hold their country to very high standards, wishing for China's welfare system and per capita income to surpass those of Switzerland and Denmark, for the industrial capability and product quality to surpass those of Germany and Japan, for the military strength to surpass that of the US and Russia; and for the ecological environment protection level to surpass that of New Zealand…and as long as China can't deliver these, they would freely complain online all the time and downplay the concrete achievements of the country," Jin said.
"They are impatient for their wishes to be satisfied. To be honest, such demands are not very realistic, and it can't help the Chinese people to better understand China's international status," he noted.
However, such high demands from the netizens have to some extent encouraged the Communist Party of China and the Chinese government to endeavor toward a fast-paced and high-quality development to satisfy the Chinese people, and this is the reason why China was able to reach so many achievements, especially in past decade, said analysts.
This has been reflected in the Global Times surveys too. In 2013, a year after the 18th National Congress of the CPC, the survey showed that more and more Chinese people have been more confident and optimistic than the previous years.
The 2013 survey covered 1,539 samples from seven major cities across the country. It shows that 40.4 percent of the interviewees believed that the economy would "keep growing year-on-year in next five years," while in 2012, 32.5 percent had the same opinion. In 2013, less people believed China would experience an economic downturn or that the economy would fluctuate up and down in following five years.
The successful governance of the new leadership, after the 18th National Congress of the CPC, boosted confidence in the economy, and the effective reforms in politics, the military and people's living standards were also reflected in the survey by the Global Times. In 2013, 74.3 percent of the interviewees said the living standard had improved, an increase of 1.3 percent over 2012. And 68.7 percent of them believed the Chinese military was able to defend the country from invasion by other major world powers in 2013, a 0.7 percent year-on-year increase.
In 2013, 72 percent of the interviewees believed that "China could continue marching on the path of socialism with the Chinese characteristics," which saw a 4.3 percent increase over 2012.
Two years later, the trend was getting increasingly clear. According to a 2015 survey focusing on Chinese people's expectations toward their country's development which covered 2,203 samples from 16 Chinese cities across countries, 86.1 percent of participants declared that "China is marching on the right path for development" while 73.7 percent of them agreed with the statement: "Although Chinese economic growth is slowing down, it's reasonable to keep the growth rate at around 7 percent."
Additionally 84.3 percent of them believed that in the following 5 years, China would make progress in cracking down violent terrorist activities that threaten the country's stability, and would improve public order and development. The remarkable results achieved in China's Xinjiang in terms of safety, with no terrorist attacks being perpetrated since 2017, prove, according to analysts, that the Chinese government has delivered what its people had expected.
The survey also showed that 86.2 percent of the interviewees believed that China would achieve significant or major progress in the fields of science and technology in the following 5 years, and in recent years, due to China's key achievement in 5G technology and other cutting edge sci-tech areas, the country has remarkably changed and improved the way of life for its own people, which to a certain extent prompted the US to launch a crackdown to contain China's development using unfair measures in multiple fields.
10 years on, with growing confidence, China’s Gen-Z finds the West no longer attractive: GT surveys
Published: Jul 08, 2022 01:01 AM
Photo: VCG
Editor's Note:
When it comes to rapid domestic development and global ascendance, there is hardly any parallel to what China has achieved over the past decade. In a poll conducted by the Global Times Research Center in 2012, over half of foreign respondents viewed China as a "world power." But Chinese people were humbler, with only 34.9 percent of Chinese respondents to a 2014 survey seeing their country as a world power, despite China's rise to become the world's second-largest economy.
However, a decade later, with growing interactions with the world and remarkable domestic development, Chinese people, especially the Generation-Z, have become increasingly confident. Most Chinese youths no longer blindly admire the West and have started to see the outside world, especially the West, on an equal footing. Beyond the growing confidence of the country as a major power, Chinese people are now starting to think about how China should reshape the world.
Through in-depth analysis on the survey results conducted by the Global Times Research Center over the past 10 years, the Global Times aims to explore why Chinese people are becoming more and more confident. This is the first of the two-part analysis, which shows that behind these changes is a great boost of China's national strength and image.
Being humble is quite a traditional characteristic of the Chinese people ingrained in Chinese culture, and the surveys done by the Global Times Research Center in past 10 years just found that when most foreigners considered China to be a world power, most Chinese still couldn't believe their country was powerful enough to make such a claim. Surveys and interviews with experts and voluntary participants revealed that Chinese people held stricter standards for their own country, and they didn't want to admit to success lest they appeared conceited or arrogant.
10 years ago, when talking about the compliments from the West on China's development, many Chinese appeared to be cautious. In Chinese culture, there is a concept called "Pengsha" which means to make someone conceited by flattering, so that he/she will stop working hard or will make mistakes, which is a classic way to cheat rivals in competition. So when the Western countries, especially the US, are talking about China's rise and capability and say that China is a "free-rider" of the Western-dominated world order and that it should be a "responsible stakeholder," many Chinese see this as a case of "Pengsha," said analysts.
The questionnaire in 2012 had covered eight countries including 7,045 interviewees aged 18-64 from the US, the UK, Germany, Japan, Russia, India, South Africa and Brazil, and 19 percent of them believed "China has already become a super power in terms of comprehensive national strength," and 34 percent of them believed China was a "world power."
At the end of 2011, the Global Times Research Center surveyed people from major cities across China, and among them there were only 14.1 percent interviewees who considered China a world power while 51.3 percent of them said "China is not yet a world power" and 33.4 percent of them said "China is not a world power at all."
Zhang Yiwu, a professor at Peking University, said "this is normal. Because foreigners could see China's growing global influence more clearly and directly than Chinese people who live in China," and the most crucial reason is that China still got many problems and difficulties that need to be solved amid the process of its fast development, so Chinese people have higher expectations and stricter demands toward their own country.
Jin Canrong, associate dean of the School of International Studies at the Renmin University of China, said that those Westerners who criticized China for not having freedom of speech have no idea what's been going on among Chinese social media in the past decade.
"Quite a number of Chinese netizens hold their country to very high standards, wishing for China's welfare system and per capita income to surpass those of Switzerland and Denmark, for the industrial capability and product quality to surpass those of Germany and Japan, for the military strength to surpass that of the US and Russia; and for the ecological environment protection level to surpass that of New Zealand…and as long as China can't deliver these, they would freely complain online all the time and downplay the concrete achievements of the country," Jin said.
"They are impatient for their wishes to be satisfied. To be honest, such demands are not very realistic, and it can't help the Chinese people to better understand China's international status," he noted.
However, such high demands from the netizens have to some extent encouraged the Communist Party of China and the Chinese government to endeavor toward a fast-paced and high-quality development to satisfy the Chinese people, and this is the reason why China was able to reach so many achievements, especially in past decade, said analysts.
This has been reflected in the Global Times surveys too. In 2013, a year after the 18th National Congress of the CPC, the survey showed that more and more Chinese people have been more confident and optimistic than the previous years.
The 2013 survey covered 1,539 samples from seven major cities across the country. It shows that 40.4 percent of the interviewees believed that the economy would "keep growing year-on-year in next five years," while in 2012, 32.5 percent had the same opinion. In 2013, less people believed China would experience an economic downturn or that the economy would fluctuate up and down in following five years.
The successful governance of the new leadership, after the 18th National Congress of the CPC, boosted confidence in the economy, and the effective reforms in politics, the military and people's living standards were also reflected in the survey by the Global Times. In 2013, 74.3 percent of the interviewees said the living standard had improved, an increase of 1.3 percent over 2012. And 68.7 percent of them believed the Chinese military was able to defend the country from invasion by other major world powers in 2013, a 0.7 percent year-on-year increase.
In 2013, 72 percent of the interviewees believed that "China could continue marching on the path of socialism with the Chinese characteristics," which saw a 4.3 percent increase over 2012.
Two years later, the trend was getting increasingly clear. According to a 2015 survey focusing on Chinese people's expectations toward their country's development which covered 2,203 samples from 16 Chinese cities across countries, 86.1 percent of participants declared that "China is marching on the right path for development" while 73.7 percent of them agreed with the statement: "Although Chinese economic growth is slowing down, it's reasonable to keep the growth rate at around 7 percent."
Additionally 84.3 percent of them believed that in the following 5 years, China would make progress in cracking down violent terrorist activities that threaten the country's stability, and would improve public order and development. The remarkable results achieved in China's Xinjiang in terms of safety, with no terrorist attacks being perpetrated since 2017, prove, according to analysts, that the Chinese government has delivered what its people had expected.
The survey also showed that 86.2 percent of the interviewees believed that China would achieve significant or major progress in the fields of science and technology in the following 5 years, and in recent years, due to China's key achievement in 5G technology and other cutting edge sci-tech areas, the country has remarkably changed and improved the way of life for its own people, which to a certain extent prompted the US to launch a crackdown to contain China's development using unfair measures in multiple fields.
Open trial on case of former vice minister of public security Sun Lijun held in NE China's Jilin on Fri: media
By Global Times Published: Jul 08, 2022 05:22 PM
Photo: VCG
A court in Changchun of NE China's Jilin Province held an open trial on Friday on case of Sun Lijun, former vice minister of public security, for taking bribes, manipulating the stock market and possessing guns illegally: media report
Sun pled guilty at the court on Friday on charges for taking bribes of 646 million yuan ($96.4 million), severely manipulating the stock market and illegally possessing two guns. The sentence has not yet been announced yet.
I have said many times that CPC is still a huge, slow and rough Leviathan.
Last night, the government issued a case announcement, but everyone knew that this was a remedial measure after the situation worsened.
Although these contents will not be reported by the news, they have been quickly circulated on the Internet,this is undoubtedly a heavy blow to political legitimacy.
It's not a smart idea to let some people who don't wear uniforms deal with the problem.Maybe we will see tanks in the future.
This country is far more fragile than you think.
The GIF file in my hand is too large to upload,but this seems to be no longer a problem.
Still looks like they were targeting specific people to arrest but regardless what does uninformed has to do with tanks?
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I said my GIF file is too large to upload.There are more detailed information than this on Weibo.
Maybe I'll find a way to publish the things I collected.