Of course as a True Patriot of China, I should want China to be at war with everyone. War with the US! War with India! War with Taiwan! War with Australia! The best thing for China is to have everyone shooting at China. Of course that's far better than trade and cooperative relations. Don't you know? Nothing is more in your interest than a bullet flying at you. Preferably over the smallest and most worthless piece of land ever. The honor of 1,000 of Chinese generations depends on controlling 1 sq km of toxic waste no one has ever heard of.
China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?
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Seriously, you and all those ha ha guys is don't smell strong sarcasm in my post? Again seriously, i obviously mock those "Chinese" in this thread who seem don't know core values of those SCS islands so willfully give to anyone! And don't get me wrong, if in future China show any signs of weakness then Vietnam among those countries like Korea( both North and South), Russia, Mongol, Myanmar even Laos will don't wait a sec to take piece of the sweet China pie. But not now not today.
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I'm confused, are you Vietnamese or not? As I mentioned previously, I don't believe the Chinese decision makers harbor any ambition to recover any islands or reefs currently occupied by other claimants. I believe China would be perfectly willing to reach an agreement with any country, Vietnam included, that would respect the status quo.
In any case, you are right about the last part. China sits on the most desirable real estate on the Asian continent, bar none. That is why China has historically been the elephant (or dragon, if you will) in the neighborhood and why it's always under attack in one form or another.
Wow so many replies, I'll address some older ones.
China is growing at a rapid rate both militarily and economically. However, it is still weaker than the US in pretty much every regard right now. Why pick a fight now? Why play a game with a weak hand when a couple rounds later, you will have a much stronger hand? Mao's approach to border disputes was to simply push it off until China got stronger and could force the issue. China's greatest advantage is the fact that is has long term thinking and strategies. Kissinger once said that US strategy is like Chess where they aim to get a quick checkmate through a power move to instantly end the game where as the Chinese strategy is like Weiqi. It slowly builds up assets through a long game until the lead is insurmountable. Currently picking fights seems like trying to get a quick checkmate and resolving the issues rather than quietly building strength until the enemies see the writing on the wall and back off. Win without fighting. It's a classic Chinese strategy that has been played without fail.
An example of being bogged down in spats are the Diaoyu Islands and Arunachal Pradesh claims. If we're being real here, these disputes are not going to be resolved any time soon as long as the US is number 1. Can China beat India/Japan in a 1 on 1? Yes. But if you bring the US into the mix? Then no. China stands far more to gain through economic cooperation with both than to press claims that are just not going to happen. China as it stands is currently still only the 2nd strongest power. Wouldn't it be smarter to focus all your energy on taking down the number 1 and keeping as many countries neutral as possible. For this new Cold War, China cannot face another NATO as the USSR did. The West and US allies in the East are disunited and squabbling between each other (see South Korea/Japan spat). They are mostly economically dominated by China but don't think for a second they won't sacrifice that to join the US. Overall, China has won nothing in diplomatic disputes except to confirm to the other side why China poses a threat. China has to keep US allies neutral so it has to lay low and maintain the status quo until it can topple the US.
China is growing at a rapid rate both militarily and economically. However, it is still weaker than the US in pretty much every regard right now. Why pick a fight now? Why play a game with a weak hand when a couple rounds later, you will have a much stronger hand? Mao's approach to border disputes was to simply push it off until China got stronger and could force the issue. China's greatest advantage is the fact that is has long term thinking and strategies. Kissinger once said that US strategy is like Chess where they aim to get a quick checkmate through a power move to instantly end the game where as the Chinese strategy is like Weiqi. It slowly builds up assets through a long game until the lead is insurmountable. Currently picking fights seems like trying to get a quick checkmate and resolving the issues rather than quietly building strength until the enemies see the writing on the wall and back off. Win without fighting. It's a classic Chinese strategy that has been played without fail.
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Like I pointed out already, Japan is already pivoting to China despite the Diaoyu dispute, and it didn't require China to give up its claims.
International politics is not a schoolyard fight, even though the current US president might see it as such. You don't need to resolve every single dispute to work with another nation.
China spends a relatively minuscule amount of resources on safeguarding the Indian border, simply because China holds the high ground here. Chinese garrisons can be easily supplied and reinforced, and heavy artillery can be moved in at a moment's notice. So I don't think you understand what "bogged down" means. The US was bogged down in Vietnam. The Soviet Union was bogged down in Afghanistan, and the US is still bogged down in Iraq.
China is not bogged down anywhere.
You're arguing with one of tidalwave's alts, just fyi.
What I mean by 'bogged down' is that the dispute isn't going anywhere. Neither side is going to see a quick resolution any time soon. All I'm suggesting is that China lays low (maintain status quo), continues building up strength as it has done for the past 70 years, then surpass the US. Then it should press all its claims with a powerful hand. Time is on China's side. It only has to be patient.
Agreed.
I recall what Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara (Author of Japan Can Say No) has previously said in print.
A prosperous hi-tech China would be far larger than neighbouring Japan, and would dominate Japan in every respect.
It was why he decided to nationalise the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands when he was in charge, rather than leave it to the future.
It demonstrates that even ardent Japanese nationalists recognise that they may have no choice but to respect China's strength, and choose China over the USA.
And if that happens, Japan would be a loyal Chinese ally, as it was for the US after WW2.
Bogged Down implies a huge drain on resources like large numbers of troops, casualties and lots of unnecessary spending.
That is not the case
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