China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?

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manqiangrexue

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escobar said:
Why do you assume China having technology independence mean US losing tech power?
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Wowwwww, I never thought much about your analytic capabilities but a request to explain principles that are this basic is still beyond expectation.

Ideally the US wants to be technologically dominant in a way that it can tell China if China doesn't obey, it cuts off this supply and China must obey. If China has technological independence, that means that not only does China no longer care for America's threat, other countries can also cast it aside and buy tech from China. On top of this, technological independence means the ability to build on top of what you know and if you cannot hinder China from doing this, with the most STEM talent in the world, it will develop superior technologies without doubt. When China becomes technologically superior (which it has in some areas like 5G), do I really need to continue to show why that's bad for American power to be technologically inferior (and increasingly so since tech snowballs with momentum) to its main rival? You got it beyond this point, right?

escobar said:
No, I see flaws and strenght in US action and same for China.
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You see like a bat trying to watch a laser show LOLOL
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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escobar said:
Why do you assume China having technology independence mean US losing tech power?
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China is the world's largest consumer of semiconductors - today that demand is supplied largely by foreign producers like Qualcomm. Once China attains semiconductor independence, companies like Qualcomm will be forced out of its market. Furthermore, China has some underhanded tricks of its own: it can go to foreign consumers of semiconductors in China like Apple and tell them that if they want to remain in China, they had better source their chips from Chinese companies like SMIC.
 
escobar

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manqiangrexue said:
Wowwwww, I never thought much about your analytic capabilities but a request to explain principles that are this basic is still beyond expectation.

Ideally the US wants to be technologically dominant in a way that it can tell China if China doesn't obey, it cuts off this supply and China must obey. If China has technological independence, that means that not only does China no longer care for America's threat, other countries can also cast it aside and buy tech from China. On top of this, technological independence means the ability to build on top of what you know and if you cannot hinder China from doing this, with the most STEM talent in the world, it will develop superior technologies without doubt. When China becomes technologically superior (which it has in some areas like 5G), do I really need to continue to show why that's bad for American power to be technologically inferior (and increasingly so since tech snowballs with momentum) to its main rival? You got it beyond this point, right?

You see like a blind man watching a laser show LOLOL
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Amusing. China has almost independance in military tech but US militray is still top and not weakening. US is selling more weapon than China. China has independance in space tech but US space tech is still strong and not weakening. US sold more satellite than China.
So having tech independance mean you have room to manoeuvre like you want. It does not mean the other is necessarily losing.
 
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localizer

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escobar said:
Amusing. China has almost independance in military tech but US militray is still top and not weakening.
China has independance in space tech but US space tech is still strong and not weakening.
So having tech independance mean you have room to manoeuvre like you want. It does not mean the other is necessarily losing.
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Don't worry, once the dollar devalues, the rest of the world will have a sudden rise in standard of living when they don't have to feed the fat American.
 
manqiangrexue

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escobar said:
Amusing.
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It's getting old. We get it; you're stupid and easily-amused by everything. You don't have to remind us; your posts keep showing it.
escobar said:
China has almost independance in military tech but US militray is still top and not weakening. US is selling more weapon than China. China has independance in space tech but US space tech is still strong and not weakening. US sold more satellite than China.
So having tech independance mean you have room to manoeuvre like you want. It does not mean the other is necessarily losing.
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It's competitive. Absolutely weaken requires a financial disaster like what happened to the Soviet Union; it's an incredibly low bar to set. But in all areas, tech, military, whatever, in relation to each other, China is strengthening and the US is weakening. Once again, this is in comparison to each other. Nobody can deny that a decade ago, the power dynamic between China and the US was far better in favor of the US than it is now.

What the US sells depends mostly on the followers it gained when its power was unchallenged.
 
escobar

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manqiangrexue said:
Like I said, I look at the big picture of who's rising in relation to whom. I look at results rather than level of panicked activity, which you focus on. And also like I said, simple-minded people like you are also called easily-amused for good reason, as you show.
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Big picture? lol. The only thing you see is the things you hope to see
 
escobar

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manqiangrexue said:
It's getting old. We get it; you're stupid and easily-amused by everything. You don't have to remind us; your posts keep showing it.
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Becoming upset when challenged.

manqiangrexue said:
It's competitive.
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Like i was saying.

manqiangrexue said:
But in all areas, tech, military, whatever, in relation to each other, China is strengthening and the US is weakening.
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Really? Ok

manqiangrexue said:
Once again, this is in comparison to each other. Nobody can deny that a decade ago, the power dynamic between China and the US was far better in favor of the US than it is now.
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Nobody will deny that. It is you and PRC gov who think US becoming weak just because CHina is rising.

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What the US sells depends mostly on the followers it gained when its power was unchallenged.
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Thanks for admiting that having tech independance does not mean US losing.
This is where having alliance is primordial. Where are the China allies?
 
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escobar

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escobar said:
Thanks for admiting that having tech independance does not mean US losing.
This is where having alliance is primordial. Where are the China allies?
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And like member Totoro said :
"The single biggest strategic vulnerability china has is relative lack of allies and potentially small world market acess if it cant intice enough countries to be neutral and contimie trading freely with it. Evertying else, the weapons, geography, oil etc is secondary. "

Tech independance is also secondary. But PRC said they don't do alliance thing. That is why they threaten everybody for everything and anything. Either they don't really want to compete with US or they are incompetent in IR.
 
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