But the original design was by the Russians. Even though SAC made some modification to make the plane its own, it is still a Russian developed plane.
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But the original design was by the Russians. Even though SAC made some modification to make the plane its own, it is still a Russian developed plane.
Maybe because there is an agreement between Sukhoi and China on this. Good faith counts because if you do me a favor, I will do you a favor on something else. A lot of things that don't seem to be directly interconnected in the China-Russia relationship may in fact be connected in some behind the scenes fashion. Better prices for the J-10 engines, agreeing to look the other way to past the engines for Pakistan's FC-1, to giving Chinese priority on oil in Siberia. And so on.
Besides like I said, before even Sukhoi may raise an objection, the PLAAF and the CMC will, because they may not like to expose the "secrets" of the indigenous stuff to the world. And its not like China has other export alternatives like the FC-1 and the J-10.
coolieno99
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Posting on the Su-35. It mentions the huge improvement in engine life. Wonder if that had something to do with the French helping the Russian in jet engine technology.
goldenpanda
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Good point Roger. China could have used the IL76 thing to attach "changes" of her own.
re su-35: so canards proved not good idea?
re su-35: so canards proved not good idea?
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I read somewhere that they dropped the canards for weight issues.
I think that if J-11B is going well as a project, then there is no need for su-35. China can just equip the next generation WS-10 engine, mentionned somewhere to have 155 kN thrust (so more than whatever is going on su-35). I don't see su-35 when it's ready, will have better avionics than what China can develop either.
goldenpanda
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I always thought they looked goofy when you already have a big tail elevator.
Not sure what the fiber optic buys you. EMP resistance? Better not bend or crack.
Not sure what the fiber optic buys you. EMP resistance? Better not bend or crack.
It was posted also in Keypublishing a link to pictures of SU-35 propaganda in the site that have the news about LAAD 2007 convention.
There is some interesting informations on the pictures.
Here is some links of the pictures:
There is some interesting informations on the pictures.
Here is some links of the pictures:
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szbd
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I guess you mean after burn thrust? Still 155KN is huge. So China's engine technology is bettern than Russian now?
==Well，WS-6 have achieved a thrust of 122 kN with after burner and 71.3 kN military thrust and a thrust to weight ratio of 5.93 in the 70's, and WS-6G achieved 138 kN and 83.85 kN and a thrust to weight ratio of 7.05 in 1980, pretty good even for today's standards, but it had reliability issues and a short life span, so it was not developed any further after the cancellation of Q-6 and J-9. And later the PLAAF chose Spey Mk202 which was more reliable and had a longer service life.
The lesson is, thrust is not the only measurement for the performance of an engine.
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