China Flanker Thread II

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MiG-29

MiG-29

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Air Force Brat said:
You're onto Mig's strategy, if you don't find a reliable source, continue searching the inter-webs for a bogus article or study or Winslow Wheeler or Pierre Spey, folks who at one time where critical thinkers, but have since become Chihuahua's, with incessant yapping and running around in circles and yapping some more, engaging in circular reasoning. After being swatted with the newspaper of truth they come back and attack your ankles once more, such as the F-22 is vulnerable to small arms fire, the F-22 operates well above 35,000 ft. As Dieno stated, the article you have quoted is bogus, to continue to go back to that is an insult to logic and reasoning, and the intellegence of fellow form members.

Mig, I am your friend, I have given you credit where due, and defended your sorry butt, and your "right" to be here, but your circular reasoning tries my patience, much like a disobedient Chihuahua, you continue to yap and yip. While others post knowledgeable and credible sources, you will post anything that suits your fancy, or more accurately your "fantasy of the moment", when some unsuspecting innocent "buys" your story, then you'll flip-flop and argue with them.

Logic and Reason proceed in a linear fashion, you claim "math" as your foundation, but very seldom do you proceed in a logical or linear fashion, I have yet to see you issue a retraction or an apology when your "theories" are refuted by the truth and a credible source or witness, you just continue to repeat, repeat, repeat, as if that continued assault on our senses will give you a "victory".

Finally, the Su-34 & the F-22 are two entirely different animals, your failure to "grasp" that belies your self expressed expertise on matters of aircraft design and aerodynamics, like I said before, you better pray that your professors don't look at your posts. Brat

Now I suggest we get back on Topic before Dieno loses his patience entirely, sorry Dieno.
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Late me reply you.


In a forum poeple come and goes saying what ever they think is right, so so much for veracity is in part in the forumite`s mind.

First i have no broken a single forum rule, so you do not need to defend me, if i am here is not because you are helping me but because i follow the rules and because i am mature enough to respect people and mature enough to see how people tries to disprove points based their views.

Here we have an article, which by the way i never said was true or not, second, Deino ask me some questions, which i did answer, first in a polite and well mannered way, If Deino agrees or not with me is not a forum rule, Deino can not force me to acept his view Su-34 is a sitting duck or force me to accept i only have to see the articel is reliable or not.


The only thing he can do upon a forum rule is say let us move on which i agree is part of a moderator`s job.
In this forum we are here to exchange views, we might like the ideas of others we might not, moderators are to control the flow of a conversation by making the conversation first polite, second on topic and third upon forum rules.

My participation on the topic was correct, since we viewed the Posibility China might buy or build the jet, i expressed my points in a well mannered way and tried to present sources since sources give validity to a point, i am not saying is my opinion but an expert`s opinion.


We can move on that is fine with me, however do not try to impose your views using a moderator`s view in such a way, Deino even as a moderator has to respect my opinion as long as i am polite, something i have been, he can say let us move along that is fine with we can move, but please as Humans, we are great by the respect we show to others, respect my opinion as i do yours, for me you are not right and i have my sources that in many ways support me.

We can move along, let us leave the issue if no one else wants to discuss it. and let us bring pictures of J-11, but please do not blame me of any wrong doing which i am not doing
 
SteelBird

SteelBird

Colonel
thunderchief said:
Can someone tell me are those Chinese or Russian engines (and how can you tell :p ) ?
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Those engines look Chinese to me. Chinese Flankers have only two choices, Russian or Chinese engines. Once there are only two types of fruits in the basket; apple and orange, it is easy; what are not apples are oranges.
 
Deino

Deino

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The WS-10 looks a bit wider than the AL-31 due to its shorter (at least they look so) AB-pedals ... they are also more siversih than the darker from the Russiaon powerplant !

Hope that image/collage I made some time ago to compare a TH-powered J-15 with a Russian Su-33..

Anyway, the for me most interesting thing to know is: are these recent images (which would indicate a new J-15 with the AL-31F) or are these older ones showing an older prototype ??? :confused:

And finally: Why dies the J-11BSH in front has such a high number ?? (all so far seen naval trainer from the 8. NDiv. have only number in the range of 03/06/08 ! ?? Maybe a new unit ???

Deino
 

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