China Flanker Thread II

[shen]

Su-33KUB also has side by side seating, however according to what i read, the duckbill radome does indeed reduce RCS, it is not a stealth fighter, true, but it has reduced RCS, plus it offers extra fuselage lift with the duckbill radome.
Su-34 also has better forward visibility than Su-33KUB

so much of the redesign work was already completed for the carrier trainer. i guess that makes more sense.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

When comparing SU34 to F15 or F16 you have to be careful because well Strike Eagle and Falcon may act as strikers SU34 is a bomber. A light bomber yes but a bomber. The flight deck feature list reads like a description of the flight deck of the B2 and no one would even try to operate a CAP mission with SU34

 

[MiG-29]

so much of the redesign work was already completed for the carrier trainer. i guess that makes more sense.

I do not see it in that way.

Su-32 was originally called Su-27IB IB stands in Russian for fighter-bomber.

Su-33KUB, KUB stands in Russian for naval trainer.

They are different programs, any one who has followed Su-34 development history knows that.

Plus Su-27IB first flew in 1990 and Su-33KUB in 1999.

 

[MiG-29]

When comparing SU34 to F15 or F16 you have to be careful because well Strike Eagle and Falcon may act as strikers SU34 is a bomber. A light bomber yes but a bomber. The flight deck feature list reads like a description of the flight deck of the B2 and no one would even try to operate a CAP mission with SU34

SU-32 can fire AA-11s and AA-10s, it can do CAP, not as efficiently as the SU-35S but definitively it has air to air capability, in fact that is the real reason it replaced Su-24, Su-24 only uses AA-8s for self defence.

I would say Su-34 has no equivalent in the world for that reason, is basicly what Mc namara wanted the F-111 to be

 

[shen]

I do not see it in that way.

Su-32 was originally called Su-27IB IB stands in Russian for fighter-bomber.

Su-33KUB, KUB stands in Russian for naval trainer.

They are different programs, any one who has followed Su-34 development history knows that.

Plus Su-27IB first flew in 1990 and Su-33KUB in 1999.

you may be right. the original program was probably intended for a Su-24 replacement. but it seems to have converged with the carrier trainer program very early.

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"The prototype (T10V-1 coded "42") was built in Sukhoi's own workshops and first flown 13 April 1990. The aircraft was first seen in a Tass photograph showing this aircraft approaching (but not landing on) the carrier “Admiral of the Fleet Kuznetsov”. It was described as a deck landing trainer"

anyway, does the Su-34 have better low level flight characteristics compare to regular Su-27/30?

 

[hardware]

Su-34 having a toilet is a myth.

there is toilet installed on SU-34,I saw in back issue AFM.

 

[Engineer]

Immediately behind the pilot seats is the bulkhead. There is no room for a toilet or a galley.

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[MiG-29]

Между тем на форуме портала club.mil.news.sina.com.cn резмещен обзор вышедшей в недавнем номере американского военного журнала Defense Review статьи, где говорится о том, что Китай ведет работы по созданию собственного варианта российского фронтового бомбардировщика Су-34.

Китай уже имеет опыт успешной разработки истребителей J-11B и J-16 на базе российских Су-27 и Су-30. Сообщается, что завершен этап продувки модели J-17 (Су-34) в аэродинамической трубе. Далее идут предположения, что китайская версия Су-34 должна прийти на замену бомбардировщикам H-6 (Ту-16).

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According to this report, Defence review claimed China was building J-17 based upon Su-34, they say it is american and the test model of Su-34 was tested on a Wind tunnel, the aircraft J-17 might be to replace H-6 according to the source

 

[Deino]

But again !!! This report too says more or less exactly the samne what the other Russian report IO posted yesterday tells us. ... the quetion remains still remains: is this report true or once again some kind of BS ???

Deino

 

[Engineer]

Между тем на форуме портала club.mil.news.sina.com.cn резмещен обзор вышедшей в недавнем номере американского военного журнала Defense Review статьи, где говорится о том, что Китай ведет работы по созданию собственного варианта российского фронтового бомбардировщика Су-34.

Китай уже имеет опыт успешной разработки истребителей J-11B и J-16 на базе российских Су-27 и Су-30. Сообщается, что завершен этап продувки модели J-17 (Су-34) в аэродинамической трубе. Далее идут предположения, что китайская версия Су-34 должна прийти на замену бомбардировщикам H-6 (Ту-16).

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According to this report, Defence review claimed China was building J-17 based upon Su-34, they say it is american and the test model of Su-34 was tested on a Wind tunnel, the aircraft J-17 might be to replace H-6 according to the source

The Su-34 test model being referred to was first seen no less than five years ago. So, what you have quoted above is simply recycled news; very old recycled news. Nothing has came out of the wind tunnel model then, nothing will come out of it now.

China tests a lot of models in the wind tunnel. There have even been pictures of F-16 and F-22 models being tested. That doesn't mean China is inducting F-16 or F-22.