Subedei
Banned Idiot
here we go again!
i was the guilty party last time.
this article is filled with speculation and i find some of the "quotes" questionable.
but, who knows?
certainly not me!
China Flanker Thread II
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here we go again!
i was the guilty party last time.
this article is filled with speculation and i find some of the "quotes" questionable.
but, who knows?
certainly not me!
Subedei
Banned Idiot
Subedei
Banned Idiot
first of all, what's the big deal comparing a platform that's beginning its life cycle to one that's life cycle is, most likely, ending?
secondly, what do we really learn, and how is the discussion helped, by articles filled with comparative superlatives?
was this simply bait for mig-29, knowing that he would respond with nationalistic defensiveness?
russia's industrial and technological development has been historically hindered by a series of politico-economic decisions. we all understand this. china's development in these domains was similarly constrained until late 20th century decisions were made that served to foster, rather than hinder, development. we all understand this, as well. these are objective facts to which emotional responses are both irrational and unhelpful.
i'd think we'd all hope that russia's leadership would also begin to make decisions that foster, rather than hinder, their development. truth be told, when we approach competition as a zero sum game, we ignore the fact that the final score might only be 1-0. using soccer as an analogy, that 1-0 "victory" could come as the result of our opponent scoring an own goal. simply put, we could win without scoring a point. kind'a empty, huh?
the j-15 is currently an evolving program that will enjoy funding sufficient to exploit the latest relevant technologies. the su-33 is currently a terminal program that lacks funding to exploit the latest relevant technologies.
that's about it!
what's the basis for comparison?
correct?
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Banned Idiot
so, then, would a more fair comparison be of the latest chinese flankers to the su-35?
and, would the chinese flankers then be the beneficiaries of those comparative superlatives in this comparison?
few years ago Chinese firm (I forgot the name of the company,lenovo?)) claim to have develop mini computer able to perform more than 10 billion cal./sec (I am not sure, 20 billion?) according to firm,computer design for naval/airborne application.
the computer I believe could also use in fighter aircraft.
the computer I believe could also use in fighter aircraft.
Equation
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Hey Mig, will the Russian Navy use the upgraded Su-33 on their aircraft carrier force as well along with the MiG-29Ks? I'm just curious, thanks.
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Lieutenant General
Do you have the link on that subject? Thanks.
article appear in wforum.com I am not sure of the date.probalby around 2008 or 2009
The Su-33 was displayed at the 2007 MAKS airshow. Someone claimed that he sat in the cockpit and took a picture:
I don't know what kind of upgrades that the Russians have performed on their Su-33's since 2007, but looking at the cockpit, I'm pretty sure that the Chinese J-15 today is more modern than the Su-33 of 2007. Also, the Russians plan to retire their Su-33 fleet in favor of new MiG-29K's, so I doubt they're spending a lot of $$ on upgrading the Su-33.
I don't know what kind of upgrades that the Russians have performed on their Su-33's since 2007, but looking at the cockpit, I'm pretty sure that the Chinese J-15 today is more modern than the Su-33 of 2007. Also, the Russians plan to retire their Su-33 fleet in favor of new MiG-29K's, so I doubt they're spending a lot of $$ on upgrading the Su-33.
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