China Flanker Thread II

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According to Yankee from CJDBY, the J-11Bs flown by the 1st Division scored a major victory in aerial combat simulations against the J-10s. They are not sure whether the J-11s were Taihang equipped or not.

More than 100 top pilots from 14 aviation brigades and regiments of the Air Force pilot their fighters to conduct an air combat confrontation training at an experimental training base of the PLA Air Force in northwest China.

 

[franco-russe]

1 Div 1 Regt Anshan is the only J-11B regiment with AL-31F engines. The participating J-10 regiment at the "Red Flag" exercise at Dingxin was reportedly 3 Div 8 Regt Changxing.

 

[cloyce]

To me, that's a WS-10 equiped J-11B!

 

[Deino]

To me, that's a WS-10 equiped J-11B!

Could fit, since the 1. FD also has TH-equipped J-11BS I already assumed they also received new J-11B .... that fits also nicely to one former 1. FD J-11B + AL-31F now assigned to the SMTU.

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More than 100 top pilots from 14 aviation brigades and regiments pilot their fighters to conduct an air combat confrontation training ...

[video=youtube;i31peX2470Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i31peX2470Y&[/video]

 

[Lion]

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On Nov. 25, 2012, China's carrier-borne J-15 fighter jet has successfully undergone a series of sailing and technological tests on the Liaoning, China's first aircraft carrier, marking a great success of the carrier-borne fighter jet independently developed by China and a major breakthrough in the development of aircraft carrier technology.

The J-15 is equipped with two high-power engines and a brand-new system of high lift device, takeoff and landing device and arrester hook. Its wing can be folded up to both maintain the excellent combat capability and meet the special requirement of landing on the Liaoning. Featuring large combat radius, excellent maneuvering performance and high bombs carrying capacity, the J-15 has a fighting capability of full sea and full airspace.

Foreign media especially Russian media guessed that the J-15 is a copy of Russian Su-33 carrier-borne fighter jet because its appearance is similar to Su-33. In this regard, spokesman of the Ministry of National Defense of China Geng Yansheng said on Nov. 29, "The world military affairs have an objective law of development. Many weapons have the same design principle and some command and protection methods are also similar. Therefore, it at least is non-professional to conclude that China copied the aircraft carrier technology of other countries only by simply comparison.”

First, J-15 has an avionics more advanced than Su-33. Su-33 is equipped with old-fashioned ARINC429 discrete avionics system of one-way low-speed data bus, while J-15 adopts joint avionics system of bidirectional data bus.


TS-100, the Su-33's fire-control computer, has a computing speed of only 170,000 times per second, while the J-15's fire-control computer has an estimated computing speed of over several million times per second.

The J-15 owns a much more advanced radar system than the Su-33. Due to its backward avionics system, the Su-33 can only serve as interceptors, and is incapable of air-to-ground precision strike.

The J-15 adopts improved materials and production techniques, and thus has greater strength and lighter weight.

Finally, the J-15 is powered by home-made Taihang (WS-10) turbofan engine, which is more powerful than the Su-33's engine. Overall, the J-15 is superior to the Su-33, and is comparable to world-class carrier-based aircraft such as the United States' F-18 and France's Rafale.

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It might be true the Su-33 is old and will be replaced by MiG-29Ks, however the Su-33 were updated a few years ago, the Su-33 China has is a late 1980s aircraft, because J-15 is a a upgraded Su-33 . however the Russian Su-33 will be replaced today by more modern MiG-29Ks with 10 tonnes of Thrust engines giving the MiG-29K 20 tonnes of thrust at take off and new avionics, so comparing Su-33 with J-15 does not represent a realistic measure, since Su-33 has been barely upgraded and if Russia wanted can upgrade it with Al-31F-M2 which easily can surpass WS-10 in thrust

 

[hardware]

the SU-33 China obtain from ukraine is technically russia 80's technology.all her system are analog.

 

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PLA signs preliminary deal for 24 Russian Su-35 jet fighters

"...Beijing expressed interest in purchasing only four Su-35s last year, but that was rejected by Moscow, which had originally expected China to buy 48 planes, Moscow's Vedomosti business daily quoted an official from Russia's Federal Service for Military and Technical Co-operation as saying."


If I were the Russians, I wouldn't have agreed to sell just 4 planes either!