SinoSoldier
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There was an official and a western report that claimed that the J-11B was getting the AESA. The J-11B was originally fitted with a Pulse doppler, so that explains wh it has a black randome.
China Flanker Thread II
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SinoSoldier
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I think you left out the J-31 and J-10B for the AESA. Anyways, I don't think the J-11B needs more powerful engines; its 132 kN WS-10 provides it more power than any other Flanker other than the Su-35 and some upgraded Su-30M units, and its thrust to weight ratio should be in its prime since the airframe weights 700 kg less than the original Su-27SK airframe (one can clearly see the green carbon fiber composites that was used).
escobar
Brigadier
Can you provide a link? Thanks.
发表日期：2012-11-30
看到14所的AESA机载火控雷达天线的结构图了
跟607的很不一样
607的天线方案类似毛子的。14所类似老米
不是20的。应该是16的
只是不清楚是P还是A，从看到的资料来分析，很可能是P的
from wmf,according to the blogger 607th radlab. adapted "stick" solution for there AESA similiar to phozotron.while no. 14th lab (nanjing?) uses vivaldi slotted antenna design similiar to europe and US,the antenna characterized by row of intrude antenna for max. t/r density.according to him the antenna may not design for J-20,but for J-16 (or even possible j-11/15)
but until a picture emerge ,it will impossible if the blogger telling the truth.
看到14所的AESA机载火控雷达天线的结构图了
跟607的很不一样
607的天线方案类似毛子的。14所类似老米
不是20的。应该是16的
只是不清楚是P还是A，从看到的资料来分析，很可能是P的
from wmf,according to the blogger 607th radlab. adapted "stick" solution for there AESA similiar to phozotron.while no. 14th lab (nanjing?) uses vivaldi slotted antenna design similiar to europe and US,the antenna characterized by row of intrude antenna for max. t/r density.according to him the antenna may not design for J-20,but for J-16 (or even possible j-11/15)
but until a picture emerge ,it will impossible if the blogger telling the truth.
yeah, you should probably ignore wmf. Not a great source at all.
The Flanker boys finally master their EW suit....
(The J-11B lost the golden helmet competition because they did not even utilise the advance EW onboard and get shot down by the Canard boys.)
Sounds like China's version of Red Flag Exercise.
Overtime, PLAAF should invite some foreign air forces to participate the exercise too, starting from PAF.
Overtime, PLAAF should invite some foreign air forces to participate the exercise too, starting from PAF.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
What makes you think the PLAAF isn't doing that already?
There have been pictures of PAF pilots with PLAAF Su27s, and with the number of Chinese and Pakistani fighter pilots in each other's country pretty much all the time, I would be amazed if there was not a broad and deep exchange of ideas or even mock dogfights.
The PAF has a lot of exchanges and exercises with NATO members and gulf state air forces, so they are pretty much on top of the game when it comes to western air combat tactics and doctrine.
While there is no substitute from actually having exercises with NATO air forces, practicing with the PAF would be pretty damn close, in addition, with the PAF, the PLAAF does not need to worry so much about potential adversaries learning about their tactics and signature moves. Even amongst the western allies, they can be friction about some members holding back and only participating to learn the tricks and capabilities of others. Just think back to all the American complaints about the French scooping up signals with their Rafales while not emitting anything themselves.
That means the PLAAF would be able to cut loose more and give it all they got with the PAF, instead of having to worry about holding back and not tipping their hand as they would if they practiced with any NATO members, since you be bet your bottom dollar that if the PLAAF actually had an exercise with a NATO member, as soon as the exercises was over, all the other NATO members will come over and they will all dissect everything the PLAAF pilots did and tailoring all subsequent inter-NATO exercises on how to counter and defeat the PLAAF.
Why would China want to give NATO such a heads up when the PAF will happily teach them about NATO tactics and doctrine with almost no risk of NATO learning about how Chinese pilots fly and fight?
hmm, this kind of stuff really depends on what you believe. Remember all that nonsense coming out of Chinese bbs a while ago about F-4s crushing Su-27s? And that time, Yankee was caught lying about what he knows. So, he is not exactly the best of sources. Anyone who actually bothers looking at that forum for a long time will know that the only people you can truly trust are Pupu and Maya on aviation related matters.
From the sound of it, J-11B did pretty well this time. In terms of actual performance, we will have to see who gets the golden helmet. We will get news coming out about this in reports in a few months and it will be settled.
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