China demographics thread.

gadgetcool5

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The sudden "generational" change is still surprising, though. No one to my knowledge has really analyzed why the drop in marriages - and then TFR - were so sudden. The former is especially surprising because a nation's culture does not just simply go from being "family oriented" to being "radically individualist" in just a few years. The only thing I can think of is the proliferation of certain social media influences. Or a rapid increase in material circumstances (like housing costs). Given the tendency for Chinese families to demand a house before marriage, a sudden drop in the amount of housing purchases could signal a major collapse in marriages, but I don't recall this happening in the time window you specified.
Well yes, in my view, a deep analysis is warranted and would be the best if policy is going to be well informed.

PS. Of course Tinder is going to be bad for men in terms of ratio. It was originally started by gay men for casual hookups. But most women want long term relationships leading to marriage. So they are going to gravitate towards more serious dating websites.
 

supercat

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The chart is not accurate. When they say get old before getting rich it usually means that the working population can't support the old/retired people

As such, for China it should show the figures for "Aged 55+" not "Aged 65+"
Everything is relative. About 62% of China's population, or 875 million, is in the working age group of 16-59. These are more than the total population of the US plus EU. Furthermore, it just a matter of time that China's retirement age will be raised to 65, or even 67. The increase in the productivity of China's workers probably can compensate the declining number of workforce.

Some regions in China no longer require marriage to have babies.
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gadgetcool5

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China to offer free fertility treatment in bid to boost record low birth rate

The National Healthcare Security Administration
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on Friday it would extend its coverage to help shoulder the costs for families trying to conceive.

It said the new coverage would include assisted reproductive technology (ART) techniques and also cover labor analgesia to ease pain in childbirth. The most commonly performed ART procedure is in vitro fertilization (IVF).

The administration described China’s falling population as one of the biggest obstacles to national development and stressed it had already added ovulation-inducing drugs to its coverage, to help “reduce the burden of infertility.”

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supercat

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Potentially $735 a pop, no kidding!
On Feb. 8, not long after a new semester began, cryobanks in Yunnan and Shaanxi provinces called for local college students to donate sperm, Yicai Global learned. Donors need to be at least 1.65 meters tall, aged between 20 and 40, and enrolled or graduated from college. Each successful donor is given up to CNY5,000 (USD735).
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supercat

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Interesting take on China's demographics:
In response to some pessimistic claims over the low birth rate as well as the aging of the population, Li Daokui, Mansfield Freeman Chair Professor of the Department of Finance of the School of Economics and Management of Tsinghua University, believes that there are a series of misunderstandings and misinterpretations in the economic circle and even broader society. Such views as "aging affects aggregate economic demand," "working-age population keeps decreasing" and "aging affects social innovation vitality" do not stand up to scrutiny, Li noted.

These misunderstandings arise because the society does not carefully distinguish between the concepts of total population and human resources. The core factor affecting the economic development of a country or a region is not the total population or the total number of young people, but the total number of active, healthy and skilled people who are willing to participate in social and economic activities, Li said.

The average life expectancy of Chinese society is constantly increasing, and the educational level of the population is constantly improving. The total amount of human resources is the sum of reserves taking into account population quality and future social labor time, the expert added.

The total potential of human resources depends specifically on two factors, the level of health and the level of education. Based on these two factors, Li's team measured the development trend of China's total human resources.

Studies by Li's team have shown that although the country's total population has reached its peak and the peak of total labor force participation has long passed, China's total human resources will continue to grow before 2040 and will remain stable from 2040 to 2050 thanks to increasingly levels of both health and education.

If 2020 is used as the base year and the total human resources are converted into population equivalent, compared with 1.4249 billion in 2020, the total human resources in the country will rise to 1.644 billion in 2050, an increase of about 15.4 percent. From 2021 to 2050, the average annual growth rate of the country's total human resources will reach 0.48 percent.

The studies estimate that if the country's human resources can be effectively promoted and fully utilized, the average growth potential of China's economy will reach 5.9 percent in 2021-2030, 4.9 percent in 2031-2040, and 4.1 percent in 2041-2050.

As China has proposed to basically realize socialist modernization by 2035, and to reach the level of moderately developed countries in terms of per capita income. Like reaching the level of Portugal, in fact, a growth rate of 4.61 percent is sufficient.
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MortyandRick

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These responses hit the nail on the head.

I rather china be at 400 mil people with the per capita income and advanced technology like the US than large population of over a billion with a shitty per capital GDP like some other south asian country.


BTW that poster is not state media lol. He actually works for an anti China leaning NGO but twitter is so racist that they just put him as state media hahahaha.
 

coolgod

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These responses hit the nail on the head.

I rather china be at 400 mil people with the per capita income and advanced technology like the US than large population of over a billion with a shitty per capital GDP like some other south asian country.


BTW that poster is not state media lol. He actually works for an anti China leaning NGO but twitter is so racist that they just put him as state media hahahaha.
I don't think CCG is anti-China leaning NGO, but Zichen Wang is obviously liberal if you look at his post history.
 
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