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For example L15A1 155mm HE shell has 11.3 kg explosive content.
Comp B has 1.72 g/cm^3 density
CL-20 has 1.9 g/cm^3.
So a CL-20 shell has in theory 12.48 weight in explosives and 23.71 kg TNT equivalent
a Comp B shell only has 11.3 kg explosive content and 15 kg TNT equivalent.
That is a plus of +58% for CL-20 WRT density and RE factor.
Comp B has 1.72 g/cm^3 density
CL-20 has 1.9 g/cm^3.
So a CL-20 shell has in theory 12.48 weight in explosives and 23.71 kg TNT equivalent
a Comp B shell only has 11.3 kg explosive content and 15 kg TNT equivalent.
That is a plus of +58% for CL-20 WRT density and RE factor.
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According to Wikipedia it was CHYNA!
And as you said, all the papers about it are written by ethnic Chinese, the one without ethnic Chinese, has still Chinese dudes at the et al. appendix.
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Structure was proposed by Dalian Institute of Chemical Physics so muricans didn't even conceptualize that this molecule could exist.
No idea if this had been posted before (mainly too lazy to check), but here's an interesting tweet.
via on Twitter
via on Twitter
I suspect that CL-20 is significantly more expensive than existing explosives used in 155mm HE Shells.
Does the additional cost justify the additional lethality for what is supposed to be a cheap HE Shell?
155mm L15A1 was just an example because i am familiar in carrying it around.
CL-20 shouldnt be mainly for Dumb shells, but smart HE shells or Smart munitions in general, imagine +58% more explosive effectiveness.
Since smart munitions are expensive anyway, one should better make sure that when they connect, nothing leaves the area alive.
Also good for nuclear fission, since the Initial explosive can be of smaller volume = smaller nuclear device, less weight, more range for carrier missile.
In the end its China, what cost today 20€ per kg, will cost 2€/kg in 2023.
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Here is an environmental assessment document about production expansion plan for "C Product".
Abstract notes: the factory currently operated one C production site with XX t/year capacity. Due to INCREASING DEMAND from important institutions, there is an urgent need to expand production lines. The capacity would approximately increase to XX t/year.
But the conclusion part noted: the current production capacity is XXX t/year, [the same thing], the capacity would approximately increase to XXX t/year. So the XX/XXX is not a good indicator for the true capacity.
After the proposed expansion, material usage will increase by 10-20 times with improved production efficiency.
Electricity usage also 10 times, from 240 Mhw/year to 2490 Mhw/year.
Personnel increased from 50 to 116.
I find it confusing as the figure in balance sheet simply doesn't added up. I think some of those figures are made deliberately wrong due to confidentiality. Otherwise the true production capacity after expansion would be around 27 t/year which is actually a decrease from the news.
Nevertheless, I think the production rate can't secure enough CL-20 for all three stages. The most likely case for CL-20 in solid propellant is the third stage of new ICBM. The first two stage would use cheaper NEPE propellant instead.
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Abstract notes: the factory currently operated one C production site with XX t/year capacity. Due to INCREASING DEMAND from important institutions, there is an urgent need to expand production lines. The capacity would approximately increase to XX t/year.
But the conclusion part noted: the current production capacity is XXX t/year, [the same thing], the capacity would approximately increase to XXX t/year. So the XX/XXX is not a good indicator for the true capacity.
After the proposed expansion, material usage will increase by 10-20 times with improved production efficiency.
Electricity usage also 10 times, from 240 Mhw/year to 2490 Mhw/year.
Personnel increased from 50 to 116.
I find it confusing as the figure in balance sheet simply doesn't added up. I think some of those figures are made deliberately wrong due to confidentiality. Otherwise the true production capacity after expansion would be around 27 t/year which is actually a decrease from the news.
Nevertheless, I think the production rate can't secure enough CL-20 for all three stages. The most likely case for CL-20 in solid propellant is the third stage of new ICBM. The first two stage would use cheaper NEPE propellant instead.
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Does anyone recognize this vehicle? It might be missile carrier because of the camouflage scheme fits with what we've seen of the Rocket Force, though not exclusive to it. If so, I wonder what missile it's designed to carry.
P.S. The image was taken from the scene of a minor traffic incident.
P.S. The image was taken from the scene of a minor traffic incident.
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Does anyone recognize this vehicle? It might be missile carrier because of the camouflage scheme fits with what we've seen of the Rocket Force, though not exclusive to it. If so, I wonder what missile it's designed to carry.
P.S. The image was taken from the scene of a minor traffic incident.
Looks new. My guess is the new Hybrid TEL that's on testing.
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