China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread
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Of course he won't. It makes no sense to discuss strategic arms limitations with the US until China can do a retaliatory strike on the US and all its allies simultaneously. And that will take a long time to achieve. China will need to build the silos, the next generation strategic subs, and the new hypersonic weapon systems, etc. Only then may strategic weapons limitations talks start. Perhaps around 2030-2032.
In the meantime the world will be at the highest historical risk for global nuclear war ever. Including during the 1960s. Even back then at least you could rest assured even if the Northern Hemisphere nuked itself out the Southern Hemisphere would probably be safe. Once the Russians put the Sarmat into service, even those houses rich billionaires in the US like Zuckerberg are buying in New Zealand won't be safe. You won't be safe anywhere.
In the meantime the world will be at the highest historical risk for global nuclear war ever. Including during the 1960s. Even back then at least you could rest assured even if the Northern Hemisphere nuked itself out the Southern Hemisphere would probably be safe. Once the Russians put the Sarmat into service, even those houses rich billionaires in the US like Zuckerberg are buying in New Zealand won't be safe. You won't be safe anywhere.
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Old news from 2020.
Qingyang Special Type Chemical Company, a subsidiary of Norinco, is the only company which produces CL-20 in China.
The article told a money-saving story about producing "C Propellant," which should be CL-20 in my understanding.
It noted that the company produced 300t "C Propellant" in the last 11 months by using self-produced Nitrocellulose to save money.
The new solid propellant contains about 48%-52% CL-20 and it approximately takes 100t propellant to make one heavy silo ICBM.
In another article, the company used "C Product" as title but the photo and content clearly stated it was CL-20 production line.
It was a chemical waste recycling assessment project.
Qingyang Special Type Chemical Company, a subsidiary of Norinco, is the only company which produces CL-20 in China.
The article told a money-saving story about producing "C Propellant," which should be CL-20 in my understanding.
It noted that the company produced 300t "C Propellant" in the last 11 months by using self-produced Nitrocellulose to save money.
The new solid propellant contains about 48%-52% CL-20 and it approximately takes 100t propellant to make one heavy silo ICBM.
In another article, the company used "C Product" as title but the photo and content clearly stated it was CL-20 production line.
It was a chemical waste recycling assessment project.
Holy shit, a whole fricken CL-20 factory.
Here's a run down on how difficult it is to handle the stuff:
Beijing Institute of Technology apparently came up with without blowing yourself up in the process. It's a world first I think.
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Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
If this is indeed CL-20 (as in hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane - I typed that out from memory, ask me how) this is a big deal. This is a huge deal! This puts every single Chinese rocket motor that uses it into an entirely new class.
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Sarmat doesn't offer much new in comparison with R-36.
Main difference is that it doesn't require any foreign (Ukrainian) components.
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In fact, it offers many new features.
There are significant novelties between Sarmat and Voevoda. For starters, the launch weight is about 100 tons of difference between them, the Sarmat weighs 110 tons, the Voevoda weighs +200 tons.
The fundamental novelty of the fifth-generation Sarmat rocket and its difference from its predecessor lies in the use of orbital bombing technology. The flight path of a conventional ICBM is easy to track, and if you know the launch point in advance, you can roughly determine the area where building a layered missile defense system will begin.
The novelty of the FOBS employment with the future employment of the "Avangard" hypersonic complex will make the Sarmat a very difficult missile to be detected and intercepted by the current American ABM system because the Sarmat employs the depressed trajectory, allied to the Avangard hypersonic missile, the current system ABM is virtually nullified, the large American ABM radars will not locate and target interceptor missiles in the response time feasible for the entire American anti-missile complex.
The glider's flight speed and maneuverability solved one of the main tasks that have always been set for ballistic missile designers: thanks to new engines and hypersonic technologies, it was possible to shorten the acceleration section, that is, the time from launch until it reaches the necessary height of the separation of the combat blocks, this will improve the description of the rocket at the expense of the American space IR early warning system.
All the technical solutions together led to the fact that Sarmat, unlike Satan, needs much less time to destroy all targets - instead of twenty minutes, as Satan had, ten is enough for Sarmat.
The rocket can fly through the north and south poles, and work with head fairings made it possible (if necessary) to increase the number of warheads from 10 to 12, as well as increasing the range to 18,000 km, an expanded capacity over the R-36. which is +11,500 km/16,000 km.
The Sarmat has more modern engines and likely more lightweight airframe. It can ascend a lot more quickly than the R-36M. The improved performance of the engines with regards to fuel consumption also increases its range and allows it to attack via the South Pole.
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The US can easily count the number of silos China has build so far from satellite images. So I think this is how the conversation will go.
Austin : How many more silos China intends to build ?
Wei : Between 100 to 1000.
Austin : Then how many of those silos you intend to fill with real missiles ?
Wei : Between 100 to 1000.
[Giggling from the Chinese and and US teams in the room]
That is Huge news!
CL-20 While being an exceptional solid propellant, is also a highly efficient explosive
It has an relative effectiveness factor RE of 1.9.
That means for one gram CL-20 it has same effective explosive power as 1.9 gram TNT.
With RE of 1.9, CL-20 is the best thing out there, only things better are HNC, ONC and OAC, which are all hard and expensive to industrially maunufacture atm.
Most explosives in munitions composition B with RE of 1.33, so CL-20 is 42.85% stronger explosive.
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