China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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They aren't exactly of the same scale these satellite images. Also, the silos and wind turbine foundations don't look too different. Here is one prior to back fill. Should be similar sized in the 3-4MW range, ~140m tall.
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And here is the top view of another one. (don't it look like the photo of the one they had with the shelter removed? well backfilled)
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The way they marked it up is kind of useless. When you are building the silo or wind turbine, you will have spoils excavating something that big that needs to piled somewhere for the back fill. You will also have run offs somewhere to dewater/ dust suppression. It is kind of weird why they have weather shelter in place though. Would warrant checking the prevailing wind directions to see if its headed in the direction of town from the top of these hill sides as a possible reason.
I kinda imagine aside from the foundation, they would have probably poured the crane pad near the road side as well to facilitate turbine installation, which may explain why it looked like the shape it does since a continuous single block pour is cheaper with less formwork.

Is the structure in Jilantai permanent or temporary? If these are temporary construction aids, then isn't it completely different straight away? I note that on the side of the one in Jilantai, they marked it as blower/ environmental control, where as on these ones in Yumen, I see trucks parked there, potentially taking the spoils elsewhere.
Not sure if the satellite resolution is high enough to see the anchor bolts. If you see the anchor bolts around, then it is definitely turbine foundations!
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I was in Yunnan for 10 days in 2019. They have windmills everywhere and they are building a lot more.
 
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Windmill explanation does sound way more likely.

That said, 100 more silos is also something that China will likely go fore in the not too distant future. Remains to be seen where those silo fields will be.

On another note - even Richard Fisher mentioned DF-45 recently. Does that mean that designation is more or less a sure thing? There will be a DF-41 variant for silos and it's gonna be called DF-45?
 
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avatar1234 said:
Windmill explanation does sound way more likely.

That said, 100 more silos is also something that China will likely go fore in the not too distant future. Remains to be seen where those silo fields will be.

On another note - even Richard Fisher mentioned DF-45 recently. Does that mean that designation is more or less a sure thing? There will be a DF-41 variant for silos and it's gonna be called DF-45?
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Richard Fisher's still publishing? He seemed to have dropped off the Internet after that whole Steele dossier controversy (one of his Strategy Center colleagues was the guy who hired Steele) and then hooked up with that Islamaphobe nut Gaffney.
 
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Godzilla said:
They aren't exactly of the same scale these satellite images. Also, the silos and wind turbine foundations don't look too different. Here is one prior to back fill. Should be similar sized in the 3-4MW range, ~140m tall.
View attachment 74527
And here is the top view of another one. (don't it look like the photo of the one they had with the shelter removed? well backfilled)
View attachment 74528
The way they marked it up is kind of useless. When you are building the silo or wind turbine, you will have spoils excavating something that big that needs to piled somewhere for the back fill. You will also have run offs somewhere to dewater/ dust suppression. It is kind of weird why they have weather shelter in place though. Would warrant checking the prevailing wind directions to see if its headed in the direction of town from the top of these hill sides as a possible reason.
I kinda imagine aside from the foundation, they would have probably poured the crane pad near the road side as well to facilitate turbine installation, which may explain why it looked like the shape it does since a continuous single block pour is cheaper with less formwork.

Is the structure in Jilantai permanent or temporary? If these are temporary construction aids, then isn't it completely different straight away? I note that on the side of the one in Jilantai, they marked it as blower/ environmental control, where as on these ones in Yumen, I see trucks parked there, potentially taking the spoils elsewhere.
Not sure if the satellite resolution is high enough to see the anchor bolts. If you see the anchor bolts around, then it is definitely turbine foundations!
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Are these suspected silos larger than the current ICBM silos that China has constructed for its DF-5s?
 
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10 ballistic missiles launched at the same time:

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This sort of thing has been happening for a while. Apparently DF-11 and DF-15 are due to be retired soon so PLARF have been setting them off like firework whenever they get an excuse. Most commonly just before a new batch of recruits graduate from their training they get an opportunity like this to launch a real missile.
 
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