China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

[Skywatcher]

Huh?...shouldn't this kind of research material be top secret? I never see other countries like the U.S. and Russia publishing this kind of material. It's kind of ironic that they're saying China's military is secretive.

Most countries don't classify basic research (principles), but the applied stuff is the sensitive stuff.

If we don't see anymore hypersonic related publications recently/next few years, it means that they're probably going into the applied research territory, which is pretty well into the black territory.

 

[ludasmatyi]

According to Weibo, this is the flight path of the hypersonic vehicle

 

[AssassinsMace]

China confirms hypersonic missile carrier test

The media is so manipulative. China would not confirm this. They probably stated a hypersonic test but would never say it was a "missile carrier" then claim it was not aimed at any country.

 

[escobar]

from PACOM chief...

The Pacific Command chief said China's recent test of a hypersonic missile was a demonstration of Beijing's ability to rapidly roll out new technologies.

"They're better at that than we are. They get to it faster. Of course they have different processes that allow them to get to it faster," he said.

 

[Blitzo]

China's response:

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

I'm referring to the open research documents, not just reports of the new weapons being tested.

true but then again the US is letting private enterprise develop platforms that utilize the same techniques and technologies. The dream chaser for example.
the key weakness for the Chinese program is that same one that has plagued all there aerospace industry. Engines.

 

[Zerozen]

Well as you read it in the news, Pentagon was surprise about the China's hypersonic test outcome.
Its the "missing piece" of the so called DF-21 aircraft carrier killer variant.
My assumption is kinetic force will be use for the intended target. With that force, hell will break lose from the containment vessel. Its maneuvering system will be using heat ablative fins to guide it, no RCS thrusters will be employed.
The hardest part will be guiding it, no homing, lasers or radar because of tremendous heat in front of it.
So whats left is a external communication to guide it by transmitting the coordinates of a moving target via satellite.

It was a surprise to me the hypersonic and another surprise how many moles does China have in the US defense industry ....particularly the contractors.

 

[Zerozen]

true but then again the US is letting private enterprise develop platforms that utilize the same techniques and technologies. The dream chaser for example.
the key weakness for the Chinese program is that same one that has plagued all there aerospace industry. Engines.

What if I say not anymore, you won't believe me.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

I try not to dismiss without evidence. I would ask for a reference preferably in English thank you.

 

[Blitzo]

true but then again the US is letting private enterprise develop platforms that utilize the same techniques and technologies. The dream chaser for example.
the key weakness for the Chinese program is that same one that has plagued all there aerospace industry. Engines.

Actually, engines may be less of a problem than you think.

For one, a hypersonic glider shouldn't have engines in the first place, not in the traditional sense. It has flight control thrusters probably, but it has no propulsion per se. But it is vaulted into near space by an ICBM or rocket. From there the glider does just what its name suggests, it glides.

The other hypersonic engine we need to consider is of course air breathing hypersonic vehicles. However, the technologies for scramjets, ramjets and turbofans are quite different, and the former two is not exactly dependent on the other. It isn't like one must achieve a proficiency level in utilizing turbofans before being able to develop scramjets or ramjets.
Sure, turbofans may be used for a reusable, horizontal take off and landing hypersonic vehicle like the proposed SR-72 which uses a but even then you only need a competent turbofan to propel your aircraft to speeds where the dual mode ramjet takes over. I've even heard that they are thinking of using a turbofan like F100 or F110 as the low speed component. In that sense, even the current WS10A could work if china wanted to develop a similar vehicle.