Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

[enroger]

Are we really sure it is an EO/IR window? Or could it not more likely be some sort of dielectric panel/array?
At least on this latest image it does not look like glas.

I'm guessing they maybe protective cover, or maybe like early J-20 prototypes just a non transparent place holder for now

edit: another possibility is that the coatings reflection just happens to be in this color viewed from this angle, need more pictures from different angle to see

 

[BillRamengod]

Are we really sure it is an EO/IR window? Or could it not more likely be some sort of dielectric panel/array?
At least on this latest image it does not look like glas.

Didn't we think this is the dielectric panel (with sideways radar underneath)? I don't see the point of adding another one (even for another band).

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Moreover, we can see from this image that it has very distinct reflective characteristics. I don't think any material other than glass/gemstones exhibits such features.

 

[AndrewJ]

After Trump's declaration on F-47, CCTV released a video to recall the transformation from J-10 to J-20. In the final frames, it says "What's next?", with a blurred photo of J-36.

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[MC530]

I kinda think the EO/IR windows of it are a single piece of glass, with no partition between the surfaces, unlike some fan art showed. Am I seeing things or not?

I will not regard a vague "candid photo" as evidence. 36011 means that there is a great possibility that there are 10 prototypes between 36001-36010, and each one may change some of the above configurations.

 

[Wrought]

I will not regard a vague "candid photo" as evidence. 36011 means that there is a great possibility that there are 10 prototypes between 36001-36010, and each one may change some of the above configurations.

That's not what the serials mean, and it's highly unlikely there were 10 prototypes. J-20 had three or maybe four prototypes; 2001, 2002, 2004 were confirmed before jumping to 2011 (and 2004 may have been renumbered).

 

[lcloo]

I will not regard a vague "candid photo" as evidence. 36011 means that there is a great possibility that there are 10 prototypes between 36001-36010, and each one may change some of the above configurations.

You may also interpret the serial number as
1. 36001 = the first demostractor. All 3600X are demostrators.
2. 36011 = the first prototype. All prototypes are serial as 3601X.

 

[Chaos314159]

Guys, is it possible that the J-36 is not that big as we thought? I mean, if I use the J-20's MIWB length (4.35m) to fit the J-36's SIWB length, I would get a J-36 total length of 20.4m, and its MIWB length is 6.1m, which is just enough to fit the PL-17, but not the existing anti-ship missiles (such as the YJ-83K and YJ-12):/

 

[lcloo]

Guys, is it possible that the J-36 is not that big as we thought? I mean, if I use the J-20's MIWB length (4.35m) to fit the J-36's SIWB length, I would get a J-36 total length of 20.4m, and its MIWB length is 6.1m, which is just enough to fit the PL-17, but not the existing anti-ship missiles (such as the YJ-83K and YJ-12):/View attachment 148498
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The width of J36's fuselage is much wider than that of J20. Even though J36's length is not significantly longer, it's size is still much bigger than J20 in term of internal volume.

Example Arleigh Buke is not much longer than type 052D DDG, but it is around 2,000 tons heavier.

 

[iBBz]

Guys, is it possible that the J-36 is not that big as we thought? I mean, if I use the J-20's MIWB length (4.35m) to fit the J-36's SIWB length, I would get a J-36 total length of 20.4m, and its MIWB length is 6.1m, which is just enough to fit the PL-17, but not the existing anti-ship missiles (such as the YJ-83K and YJ-12):/View attachment 148498
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The width of J36's fuselage is much wider than that of J20. Even though J36's length is not significantly longer, it's size is still much bigger than J20 in term of internal volume.

Example Arleigh Buke is not much longer than type 052D DDG, but it is around 2,000 tons heavier.

Here's an image I posted a short while back. Notice the gigantic fuselage of the J-36.

 

[Chaos314159]

The width of J36's fuselage is much wider than that of J20. Even though J36's length is not significantly longer, it's size is still much bigger than J20 in term of internal volume.

Example Arleigh Buke is not much longer than type 052D DDG, but it is around 2,000 tons heavier.

Yes, I know, I still advocate that its MTOW is 50-60 tons. But I think this can negate the argument that it is a fighter-bomber, because in terms of the types of missiles it can carry, it is a complete air superiority fighter:/