Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

ENTED64

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Is it true that China has better subsystems than the US? I am talking about GaN AESA, spoofing and jamming on planes.

significantly more individual transmit/receive on their AESA than the US counterpart?

We know some characteristics of some old systems which are eventually published and/or leaked. However since this thread is for the J-36 which is a next gen aircraft that is still in development, we have absolutely no idea how well J-36 various subsystems will stack up against F-47 or whatever in development fighter you care to name. They don't exist as a finished product yet.

In general we don't really know much about how good various subsystems are on fighters that are currently being produced. This is partly because of good OPSEC and partly because technology is improving so it's a moving target. As for the general state of industry/tech levels of various relevant fields to fighter subsystems it is probably fair to say that right now China and USA are somewhere close to each other. This could mean there are specific subsystems where USA or China is a bit ahead or behind but in general it's close enough that there is no way to know from OSINT.
 

Biscuits

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Well, the radar on a XAG P150 agricultural drone looks like this.
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The new model in December 2024 has an official price of 38,888 yuan. My friend was shot down in a vegetable field.
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China clearly has more overall industry experience with radar/avionics/sensor fusion. But this doesn't necessarily translate into the state of the art ones being better.

You can liken it to the cold war situation where US had much more experience with for example machining tools than the USSR, but it didn't mean USSR submarines are guaranteed non competitive with US ones.
 

BillRamengod

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Source: Bilibili.
Couldn’t find the original image source, and it’s been taken down now. The text on the image mentioning "F47" was just a joke—nothing useful there. The plane taxiing on the ground is probably a J36, but the photo’s authenticity is unknown, so can’t confirm.
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Seems someone saved the photo before it was deleted.
 

Deino

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I kinda think the EO/IR windows of it are a single piece of glass, with no partition between the surfaces, unlike some fan art showed. Am I seeing things or not?


Are we really sure it is an EO/IR window? Or could it not more likely be some sort of dielectric panel/array?
At least on this latest image it does not look like glas.
 

mack8

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It's pretty clear (to me at least) from the pictures that the nose EO arrays seem split into two vertically, one might be for EO and the other for DIRCM/laser. See this concept here showing laser windows on nose and rear.
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Deino

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It's pretty clear (to me at least) from the pictures that the nose EO arrays seem split into two vertically, one might be for EO and the other for DIRCM/laser. See this concept here showing laser windows on nose and rear.
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The point is it is indeed pretty clear "there is something" but is it really that clear a clear part aka glas?
 
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