J-36 will enter in service in 2031-2032.. by that time we will have advance variants of WS-15 in production.
so either WS-15 or WS-XX
WS-XX has entered in full scale prototype stage. it won't take much time.
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so either WS-15 or WS-XX
WS-XX has entered in full scale prototype stage. it won't take much time.
It will depend on how quickly the engines get developed.
Let's not be so affirmative with these timelines.
Well that depends on the mission. if it's cruising at mach2.0, then it's going to have shorter range. But if it's looking to fight over Guam, then cruising optimally at high subsonic maybe the way to do.
It is so much larger than J-20. The wings look to be 2.5 to 3x as large. You can put sensors on the leading edge and there to still hold just enormous amount of fuel in the wings.
The entire "big shrimp" community says this thing has Guam combat radius. It's clearly built to have lower drag than a non-flywing design of comparable size. Its fuel tank is probably at least 2x that of J-20. I don't know why it's so hard to just accept that it has 3000 km combat radius.
Because it isn't just about volume. It is also about mass, and that third engine will consume more fuel, therefore, I will wait for more solid info than guesswork.
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Yes generational numbers mean nothing except when it’s the US that seems ahead of everyone else.
Some other observations noted in these videos…
They’re just RC models tricking everyone…
The J-36 is just a new J-20 variant like what the US did with the F-16XL…
Proof that the J-36 is just another J-20 is because the weapons bays are similar…
Entering the third stage of grief… bargaining.
Quite a few are taking issue (partially due to their own misinterpretation) with the depicted "J-36 1:8 against blue fighters/CCAs" (yes I know it's annotated and also missing context of red CCA)
I think it should be expected for infographics like these to be more widespread than intended
Also related, the discourse around these couple planes has been a sight to witness. Lots of cringe from both sides.
The guy at the bottom is huffing too much copium
comment starterpack for these videos:
It's the Mig25 moment for America
NGAD flew in 2020
Their 6th gen is our 4th gen
Needing 3 engines means their engine tech is trash
It looks similar to the RQ170/B2/<insert american aircraft name> which was made 20 years ago so they are still 20 years behind
I don't know what its capabilities are but all I know is that the F22 is better
can't fly fast without losing stealth coatings because china's material tech is trash
6th gen knockoff from wish/temu/aliexpress
the path from the intake to the engine (in CHAD) is straight so it can't hide the engine fans making it less stealthy from the front (ok this one is actually pretty legit and a big concern of mine as well)
It isn't particularly straight; if you consider where the weapons bay are, where the landing gear bays are, and the location of the engines in the fuselage, there basically has to be serpentine ducting to allow a passage from the intakes to the engines themselves.
The "straight line" from the air intake to the engines is about as "straight" as it appears say, on F-22.
It probably both curves around the side bay and upwards (The side view of J-36 shows that the intake curves that way). I doubt they would not address such a massive detriment to stealth.