He's earned his credibility when it comes to tracking PLAN shipbuilding but it's also people like him who make our world a living hell for the majority of the population.Certainly Tom S was pretty unhinged in that thread
He's earned his credibility when it comes to tracking PLAN shipbuilding but it's also people like him who make our world a living hell for the majority of the population.Certainly Tom S was pretty unhinged in that thread
Bolded text for more clarity.Tabulation of PLAN major surface warships under various stages of construction/assembly/fitting out/sea trials as of today (12 August 2024):
003 CV: 1 confirmed
076 LHD: 1 confirmed
075 LHD: 1 confirmed
055 DDG: 4 confirmed and 4 more expected/purported
052D/DG DDG: 10 confirmed and at least 3 more expected/purported
054B FFG: 2 confirmed
054A/AG FFG: 3 confirmed and at least 7 more expected/purported
AFAIK there is no reliable list of pennant numbers in the public realm. Since the late 1990s PLAN has stopped using sail numbers (this caused a great deal of confusion on numbers produced for 039 for a start). Sites like Wikipedia reference Janes for some numbers, but I would take that sourcing with large piles of salt. Same goes for Chinese Wiki (and the total number of boats claimed in service etc there).I am slightly confused here regarding the total number of PLAN SSNs and SSBNs? Can anyone give some clarity on the issue preferably with pennant numbers as there are multiple inputs with varied numbers elsewhere.
Why would they have to? This is only the latest in a series of attack pieces whose only "source" are some grainy sat photos of some cranes and a sub, and the rest is all fabricated. The very fact that this apparent major naval news did not make Naval News should tell you that no one other than tabloids and WSJ who's trying to become a tabloid take this seriously.
Why would they have to? This is only the latest in a series of attack pieces whose only "source" are some grainy sat photos of some cranes and a sub, and the rest is all fabricated. The very fact that this apparent major naval news did not make Naval News should tell you that no one other than tabloids and WSJ who's trying to become a tabloid take this seriously.
Why is China not rebutting this?
"Sinking feeling engulfs China submarine program"
From asiatimes.com, October 1, 2024
Naval News isn't necessarily a threshold for a story's credibility or lack thereof.
I have no issue with the publication/site itself, but the argument would be stronger if the weaknesses of the story itself was credited on its own problems rather than whether it was featured on Naval News lol.
a PLAN allegedly nuclear sub allegedly sinks, and no mention of it in Naval News, the official newspaper of the Royal Navy, or Navy Times, the official newspaper of the USN, both of which should have been all over such a story? surely there are better, more apparent indicators that this story is perhaps not as reported, according to you.
there's no need to always have to find some remote angle to pick a bone with every single post that is not yours champ.