2022 Olympic Winter Games Beijing

Sardaukar20

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Nathan Chen winning Gold at the Olympics is his own wonderful achievement. He did it through his own ability. It doesn't matter if he does it for Team USA or Team China. In terms of his loyalty to either USA or China, thats his own decision to make.

Nevertheless. After the Olympics is done. When Nathan Chen is walking down the streets of America. I'm betting that someone would eventually tell him or his family to: "Go back to communist China!". Give another 4 years of that treatment, let's see where Nathan's loyalty stands in the next Winter Olympics.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
For me I dun feel much about Nathan representing US and not China. He clearly isn't pro China and likely dun feel deeply about the country and Chinese culture.

The one that got away for me is Emma radacanu. Similar background with Gu, Chinese mum, speaks fluent Chinese, identifies with Chinese culture, also with model type looks. Big commercial appeal. She won a Slam at early age, her endorsement are big right now but imagine if she represents china, instead of colonial Britain, her endorsement profile will be through the roof with plus hundred of millions of chinese supporting her. She can increase the profile of tennis in China which kinds stagnated after li na retired.
What's to stop Emma from changing which country to represent?
 

manqiangrexue

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Here are my thoughts.

On Nathan Chen, all Chinese people who represent America, and even all Asian people who represent America, they are a disgrace and a terrible burden on the public views of Asians. First of all, while they might be the ones on that podium, after the event is done, nobody cares who won what. The medals just become numbers and they count to prop up numbers for Caucasian countries rather than Asian countries. In other words, after they walk home with that medal, people digging up wiki think white people beat Chinese people when they see, for example, the US top the medals list above China. Very rarely do people analyze and figure out that of all the gold medals between the US and China, Asians took most of them. So despite winning, because they represented the US instead of China or Korea, they perpetuate the myth that Asians are unathletic. Secondly, even if people see Asian Americans on that podium and realize their athletic talent, it is absolutely nothing compared to the negative influence this has. It tells society that Asians are too mentally weak and leg-hugging to go back home and stand up; even if you commit hate crimes against them and send their grandparents to the hospital, they will still do your bidding as loyal servants and they will do it against their own blood, because they have no love or respect for who they really are. This is far uglier an image than being unathletic, especially in a world where brains increasingly defeat brawn in all aspects that matter.

On Ailin Gu, I have neither affection nor disdain for her. She's half Chinese; this year, she brought China a gold medal and set American haters on fire. I appreciate what she did and recognize her as a positive influence overall this year (who knows where she goes in the future), but I judge heroes by their intent, not just their result. I don't believe that her family is patriotic or that they cared to serve China. I strongly believe that they are smart people who realized that this girl could be a bigger hit in China than she could ever have been in the US, and that simple calculation could not possibly have been more correct. Ailin would never have been a bigger celebrity than any NFL/NBA/MLB MVP in the US no matter how may gold medals she can win, but now, she is the biggest trending star in China and likely the world. These people chose to go to China because it served their interests, and I believe that if they thought she would be richer/more popular in the US, they would have done that.

My name has an exceptionally rare character. It is
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Chish

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That is why placing the a ski jump next to the old steel plant was a mistake. All snow related events should be located on the mountains. There are separate Olympics village up there on the mountains. It is an image that would lend itself to intentional bashing. Like they would use that image to reinforce their pre-conceived notion that China is polluting.

As the athletes jumped up in mid air and was showed in slow motion, those chimneys provided an ugly back drop. You would want to see beautiful skies and mountains as the back drop.
Why would China use natural virgin lands to build Olympic avenues when they can recycle abandoned industrial sites for a more sustainable and green Olympic?
Using the same avenues, Beijing should be able to go for the 3rd Olympic at even less costs.
 
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Temstar

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Here are my thoughts.

On Nathan Chen, all Chinese people who represent America, and even all Asian people who represent America, they are a disgrace and a terrible burden on the public views of Asians. First of all, while they might be the ones on that podium, after the event is done, nobody cares who won what. The medals just become numbers and they count to prop up numbers for Caucasian countries rather than Asian countries. In other words, after they walk home with that medal, people digging up wiki think white people beat Chinese people when they see, for example, the US top the medals list above China. Very rarely do people analyze and figure out that of all the gold medals between the US and China, Asians took most of them. So despite winning, because they represented the US instead of China or Korea, they perpetuate the myth that Asians are unathletic. Secondly, even if people see Asian Americans on that podium and realize their athletic talent, it is absolutely nothing compared to the negative influence this has. It tells society that Asians are too mentally weak and leg-hugging to go back home and stand up; even if you commit hate crimes against them and send their grandparents to the hospital, they will still do your bidding as loyal servants and they will do it against their own blood, because they have no love or respect for who they really are. This is far uglier an image than being unathletic, especially in a world where brains increasingly defeat brawn in all aspects that matter.

On Ailin Gu, I have neither affection nor disdain for her. She's half Chinese; this year, she brought China a gold medal and set American haters on fire. I appreciate what she did and recognize her as a positive influence overall this year (who knows where she goes in the future), but I judge heroes by their intent, not just their result. I don't believe that her family is patriotic or that they cared to serve China. I strongly believe that they are smart people who realized that this girl could be a bigger hit in China than she could ever have been in the US, and that simple calculation could not possibly have been more correct. Ailin would never have been a bigger celebrity than any NFL/NBA/MLB MVP in the US no matter how may gold medals she can win, but now, she is the biggest trending star in China and likely the world. These people chose to go to China because it served their interests, and I believe that if they thought she would be richer/more popular in the US, they would have done that.

My name has an exceptionally rare character. It is
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. Literally, it means bird of prey, most commonly an owl, (as it is a pictogram of a bird perched upon the tip of a tree) but the word is sometimes interpreted ominously and associated with evil. My father insisted on this character against the wishes of everyone else in the family. The name-rater they hired quit in frustration saying that he could be of no use if my father was this stubborn. Only when I became an adult did he explain to me why he made that choice. He explained that the
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character was used to describe the Dark Warlord of Feudal China: Cao Cao. Expanded, it was
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, which was the opposite, in some respects, to the hero. As best I can think of, there is no suitable English translation. He said he chose this word for me because he wanted me to achieve my goals like a
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, successful, but selfish. While a hero would sacrifice everything, maybe even his life to achieve his goal, a
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than Ailin Gu, her mother, and grandmother.
When I was helping my circles of friends translate
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we elected to translate 枭雄 as "villainous hero". I believe this is quite close to Mao Zedong's own assessment of Cao Cao as he would insist people not to call Cao Cao a villain as he's much more complex than that. Incidentally people often describe both Mao and his nemesis Chiang as 枭雄.

枭雄 tend to find their stride in times of great chaos and change, so it's little surprise that people like Gu Ailin now command the world's attention, as we are now in a period of time which Xi dubbed "Profound Changes Unseen in Centuries ".
 

ansy1968

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Here are my thoughts.

On Nathan Chen, all Chinese people who represent America, and even all Asian people who represent America, they are a disgrace and a terrible burden on the public views of Asians. First of all, while they might be the ones on that podium, after the event is done, nobody cares who won what. The medals just become numbers and they count to prop up numbers for Caucasian countries rather than Asian countries. In other words, after they walk home with that medal, people digging up wiki think white people beat Chinese people when they see, for example, the US top the medals list above China. Very rarely do people analyze and figure out that of all the gold medals between the US and China, Asians took most of them. So despite winning, because they represented the US instead of China or Korea, they perpetuate the myth that Asians are unathletic. Secondly, even if people see Asian Americans on that podium and realize their athletic talent, it is absolutely nothing compared to the negative influence this has. It tells society that Asians are too mentally weak and leg-hugging to go back home and stand up; even if you commit hate crimes against them and send their grandparents to the hospital, they will still do your bidding as loyal servants and they will do it against their own blood, because they have no love or respect for who they really are. This is far uglier an image than being unathletic, especially in a world where brains increasingly defeat brawn in all aspects that matter.
@manqiangrexue bro I don't want to comment regarding Chinese American cause I don't live there, BUT I can relate. In my youth I was slated to represented my country the Philippine in Taekwondo and I'm elated and so are my parent, family members and relatives. It was my dream to represent my adopted country and my father wish as a payback, the courtesy my adopted country afforded to us. So sorry bro I may disagree, It is hard to be a minority in a foreign country, the hate , the discrimination, it can destroy you BUT it can also make you a better person and I learned that aside from my late father advise but also after receiving support from my Filipino teammate and Taekwondo community after suffering an injury that ended my career.
 
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Tyler

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Why would China use natural virgin lands to build Olympic avenues when they can recycle abandoned industrial sites for a more sustainable and green Olympic?
Using the same avenues, Beijing should be able to go for the 3rd Olympic at even less costs.
Most of the snow related events are hosted on venues on the mountains anyway, except for this ski jump. This abandoned industrial site can be recycled for many other types of uses, and will not be wasted.
 
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