09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread

Sinnavuuty

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Look at the shadows cast by buildings and cranes...
these images have been “worked”

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In the red circle not a crane has a shadow in the same direction (white arrows)

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Look how strange this image is, I'm talking about it. Shadows in two different directions in the same area of the red circle.

It even looks like they deleted the photo. Here it is.
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Not only that. The shadow of the ship below the red circle clearly shows that this image was edited. Not only is the body of water different, but the shadows of the ship with the shadow of the cranes show that they are images from different times - possibly also days.
Is a mosaic of photos probably taken at different hours, you can see seam lines.
Everything is different in the picture.

Shadow on the buildings.
Shadow on the ship.
Shadow on the cranes.

And another thing, someone with experience in viewing images should see that this is a completely edited image. The blue circle shows a different contrast from a blue installation, there was a cut perfectly in line with the rest of the area marked in blue that has a perfect line that can only have been edited.
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Zichan

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Unless this is reported by USNI news, I’m not taking it seriously. Those images prove nothing. The claim that it was an SSN gives it even less credibility.
 

valysre

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Shadow of the big red crane on left of "submarine" is different from the other two cranes. The other shadows aren't relevant because they're composites from other times and have no bearing on the "submarine".

Edit: Could be correct depending on the height of the red crane.
 

Sinnavuuty

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Shadow of the big red crane on left of "submarine" is different from the other two cranes. The other shadows aren't relevant because they're composites from other times and have no bearing on the "submarine".

Edit: Could be correct depending on the height of the red crane.
It looks like the shadow of the crane itself.
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Blitzo

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Unless this is reported by USNI news, I’m not taking it seriously. Those images prove nothing. The claim that it was an SSN gives it even less credibility.

USNI news isn't exactly a beacon of credibility either, especially when media typically echo the beats that other outlets write.

The linchpin of this WSJ article is the one lone DoD quote which doesn't actually outright confirm or deny the statement by the author, only saying:
"It’s not surprising that the PLA Navy would try to conceal the fact that their new first-in-class nuclear-powered attack submarine sank pierside,” said a senior U.S. defense official. “In addition to the obvious questions about training standards and equipment quality, the incident raises deeper questions about the PLA’s internal accountability and oversight of China’s defense industry, which has long been plagued by corruption.”

It's possible the author was trying to avoid putting someone at risk by directly quoting a confirmation of the purported event, but everything about the article -- the timeline beginning with inconclusive satellite imagery, lack of anyone quoted on the record saying "yes this happened" and the strange timeline of a nuclear submarine being built at Wuhan at this time (if they meant the SSK-N, it is a bit too early to have expected it to emerge), is all rather sus.
 
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