071 LPD thread

[Blitzo]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

another reason could be that the LCAC was restricted to the design dimensions of the well deck width area, it could be that originally the 071 LPD wasn't designed with the LCAC in mind where smaller boats or older sytle landing boats would fit in the well deck area ... the LCAC seems more of a tech and concept tester, it is too small to be of much use to carry heavy tanks and overkill for the lighter role of troop and cargo transport (from a cost point of view) to a beach head... the next generation LCAC would need a redesigned LPD or LHD with a wider well deck to have space to upscale in size to something like the US LCAC

I think that's unlikely - when the first models of the 071 came in, there were cut outs showing LCAC's in a well deck. From the beginning, I think it was meant to have LCAC's..

 

[AssassinsMace]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Early models have shown it carrying LCACs. Also if you look at that cut-away pic I posted earlier you can see what looks like two MBTs sitting in there. If you look at post #118, they're already in the process of constructing another so they seem to be satisfied with the design.

 

[Blitzo]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Let's hope they can mass produce it to comparable numbers like the US LCAC has been.

Even if there are more LCAC's to 071's, they should still have sufficient range to be useful in any taiwan/amphibious assault scenario. And I should think this LCAC "should" be capable of carrying one MBT, though probably isn't as capable as the USN LCAC.

btw, here's a pic that was posted on CDF a good while back, which may give indication of the kind of cargo the LCAC can carry (originally posted by =GT) Not sure how legit it is though.

 

[bd popeye]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Let's hope they can mass produce it to comparable numbers like the US LCAC has been.

The US has 91 LCACs.. The last one was built delivered in 1991. This craft served as the basis for the Navy’s LCAC Service Life Extension Program (SLEP). 10 USN LCACs are in ten are on reduced readiness status, while two others are assigned to research and development, and seven to support roles. I do not know how many are in SLEP now.

 

[MwRYum]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Very little is known as to the actual capacity of the 071 class well dock in relation to this class of LCAC, but even if it's maximum capacity is 2, then in order to achieve a minimum level of operational status, then the LCAC-to-LPD ratio has to be at least 6:1 - 2 on deployment, 2 for training and 2 for servicing at any one time.

And the long gestation of this LCAC is very likely to be due to the good'o problem that China has: engine, in this case the needed turbine engine. China has diesel engine covered but always can't produce their own turbine engine. The official source said that almost 90% composed of aerospace tech, that'd mean the turbine engine and the light-weight material for sure.

I agree, the LCAC would serve no purpose with the anti-piracy patrol. But it would be a good time to trial test the LCAC, maybe 2 missions in one for this 071 deployment. How can the LCAC be tested? That I'm not sure, perhaps simply use it to haul replenishments from shore to ship?

The most likely ports they'd make call for supplies, would be at Pakistan or Sri Lanka or the port at the emirate that the NATO taskforce also use, but none has the ramp for the LCAC to come ashore or get back to the sea, and made an exercise with Pakistan? India will go ape for certain.

 

[dingyibvs]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

The LCAC needs a ramp to come ashore? That's kind of a useless weapon, no?

 

[MwRYum]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

The LCAC needs a ramp to come ashore? That's kind of a useless weapon, no?

Or a beach for that matter, but what kind of port that still has beach?

 

[ZTZ99]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Very little is known as to the actual capacity of the 071 class well dock in relation to this class of LCAC, but even if it's maximum capacity is 2, then in order to achieve a minimum level of operational status, then the LCAC-to-LPD ratio has to be at least 6:1 - 2 on deployment, 2 for training and 2 for servicing at any one time.

I'm betting on 4. Based on the well deck photos we've already seen, it looks like 4 is the magic number.

none has the ramp for the LCAC to come ashore or get back to the sea, and made an exercise with Pakistan? India will go ape for certain.

LCAC's don't need ramps to come ashore. That's the whole point of an LCAC.

 

[dingyibvs]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Or a beach for that matter, but what kind of port that still has beach?

I'd think that most ports have beaches around them, can't they just drive a truck or something up to the beachhead and reload the LCAC? If reloading requires infrastructure(roads, cranes, etc.) leading right up to the beachhead then you do have a point.

 

[bd popeye]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

The LCAC needs a ramp to come ashore? That's kind of a useless weapon, no?

The ramp is so vehicles can exit the LCAC when it hits the beach.