071 LPD thread

no_name

Colonel
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

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Mysterre

Banned Idiot
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Look, are you saying that the 28000t displacement is impossible? Because as long as it's possible, even if improbable, the rest of us will believe what PLAN sailors say.

It's useless for any of us to keep arguing, because the key difference between us is how much weight we give to PLAN officers' words. We give it a lot of weight, you don't, it's simple as that. No amount of arguing will change that fact, and judging on past history, it's unlikely that the PLA/N will ever release information official enough to convince one side to switch beliefs. Therefore, there is no point in continuing this discussion and let's just agree to disagree.

Back to the previous topic of discussion, can we at least agree now that the 071 is close enough in size to the San Antonio class that the PLAN likely won't consider building a new, larger class of LPD's any time soon?
I am definitely not saying it's impossible. It is IMO one piece of evidence suggesting a heavier tonnage than previously thought. But just one piece, with some reliability issues regarding degrees of separation, which I have already talked about. The LPD seems to be an adequate design for the role of amphibious assault, so yes, I do not believe there will any new LPD designs coming out anytime soon.

It looks like 071 production has stopped at 3 units and the next class of large amphibious assault ship will be the LHD. Of course quite a few of us would've been surprised that 071 only stopped at 3, but if it really does displace 27-28k (mysterre's objections noted), the decision seems somewhat more logical.
Stopping at 3 units surprises me a little. I would have thought 6 would have been more appropriate, backed by 3 LHD's. That would have allowed a maximum availability of about 4 LPD's and 2 LHD's at any given time, enough for a complete marine division to be transported along with a sizable helicopter assault force.
 
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Yorkie

New Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Some close-up photos of 071. Hope hasn't already been posted before:



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It's interesting to note that they even segregate the messing hall for female sailors. Some of them are officers, so no Wardroom for officers?
 

no_name

Colonel
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Maybe its an officer mess hall because the other one I posted (the one with the orange chairs) don't look so posh.

Or maybe girls just have nicer stuffs...unfair! :p
 

rhino123

Pencil Pusher
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft


Hmm... actually pretty nice interior of the ship and the corridor featured remind me of hotel corridor :)

As to how many ships PLAN had stopped building, I am sure that they have their own reason for doing that, it might be that the new LHD is ready and the shipyards are too tied up with production of other class ships as well as they needed to get the LHD up and going, because with just the hardware is not enough, you need to train people on board.

So, they might be wanting to get some LHD out, before resuming to the production of the 071 (and/or its successors).
 

tphuang

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

This discussion is going no where. Any more posts on the specific arguments on this displacement topic will be deleted. Let's move on.
 
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hmmwv

Junior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Maybe its an officer mess hall because the other one I posted (the one with the orange chairs) don't look so posh.

Or maybe girls just have nicer stuffs...unfair! :p

I agree that does look like the officer's mess hall, this is clearly class warfare!:)
 

Yorkie

New Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I agree that does look like the officer's mess hall, this is clearly class warfare!:)

Well, it's even more so on a western navy's ship if you ever get to tour one inside. Real china is used for meal services in the officers Ward Room with its own small kitchen, vs. metal trays and cafeteria style in the mess hall.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

love the pictures!

in my opinion the best deck pictures showing the hangers, i think it re-affirms that 4 x Z8s can fit inside those hangers

these pictures also show the qaulity of the work on this LPD, and it seems very good, apart from those overhead cables which are not covered!:D

in my opinion the standard looks high
 

hmmwv

Junior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Well, it's even more so on a western navy's ship if you ever get to tour one inside. Real china is used for meal services in the officers Ward Room with its own small kitchen, vs. metal trays and cafeteria style in the mess hall.

Obviously I'm joking, separate facilities for the officers have been the standard practice on PLAN ships for years.

these pictures also show the qaulity of the work on this LPD, and it seems very good, apart from those overhead cables which are not covered!:D

in my opinion the standard looks high

I believe the cables are exposed inside overhead service carriers for damage assessment purposes and to prevent dust buildup in a confined space. It's also a standard design feature on all US Navy ships.
 
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