071 LPD thread

[bd popeye]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I believe the cables are exposed inside overhead service carriers for damage assessment purposes and to prevent dust buildup in a confined space. It's also a standard design feature on all US Navy ships.

Correct.. this has been pointed out in this thread regarding overhead ducts and wiring.

Should all that cabling just be exposed out in the open like that? If there was a fire in the corridor, the insulation on the cables would melt or even catch fire themselves extremely quickly and could thus cut power to vital systems.

You see the same thing on USN ships. Look in the upper right hand corner of the photo below. If the cables are covered with a vent like structure what happens, believe it or not, dust collects and that is a great fire hazard.

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ARABIAN SEA (June 23, 2012) Sailors combat a simulated fire during a general quarters drill aboard the amphibious dock-landing ship USS Gunston Hall (LSD 44). Gunston Hall is part of the Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group with the embarked 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit (24th MEU) and is deployed supporting maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jonathan Sunderman/Released)

 

[Jeff Head]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Some close-up photos of 071. Hope hasn't already been posted before:

Vey nice pics, no_name. Particularly these showing the inside of the hangar spaces. Large, spacious hanger.

Be careful to whomever is getting these pics out.

 

[asif iqbal]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Ah good clarification, this is another good indication that the standard of work on Chinese vessals is either on par or about that level with the most modern warships from around the world when it comes to Navy, there has been lots of talk of shabby work etc but now i believe they are most likely rumours, warship magazine likes to say PLAN ships suffer from lack of craftsmanship and Western standards but i dont think that is the case

PN sailors who have been on Azmat Class say its as advanced as a Western warship inside and out, good to know now that probably applys to the larger ships is well, also the training by Chinese sailors to their Pakistani counter-parts indicates many good practices which are again world standard, Pakistani Navy plays an active role in the multinational NAVCENT, CTF-150, CTF-151, and Operation Enduring Freedom operations and has cross boarded worlds best warships so are also a good judge on warship design and construction

overall these pictures are reassuring!

 

[bd popeye]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Naval terminology...

wall = bulkhead
Floor = deck
ceiling = overhead
hallway = passageway
enlisted mess hall = messdeck
officer mess hall = wardroom

There's plenty more.

 

[no_name]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I notices that the two hangar door is not divided down the middle and it is actually one big hangar inside. So why do they need to split the entrance into two sections? Is it a structural rigidity requirement of the hangar doors? Or just in case one malfunctions?

 

[Mysterre]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I notices that the two hangar door is not divided down the middle and it is actually one big hangar inside. So why do they need to split the entrance into two sections? Is it a structural rigidity requirement of the hangar doors? Or just in case one malfunctions?

That would be a rather large, unwieldy hangar door if made in one piece. Plus there is no requirement for such a large door given the range of PLAN's current helicopter force.

 

[rhino123]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

That would be a rather large, unwieldy hangar door if made in one piece. Plus there is no requirement for such a large door given the range of PLAN's current helicopter force.

The keyword here is current helicopter force. This ship will not only be serving for a couple of years, so in foreseeable future when the PLAN was using bigger helicopters or different design of the helicopter, they might need that type of space and width. It is good to take into consideration of future equipments and designs when designing of existing ships.

 

[Mysterre]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

The keyword here is current helicopter force. This ship will not only be serving for a couple of years, so in foreseeable future when the PLAN was using bigger helicopters or different design of the helicopter, they might need that type of space and width. It is good to take into consideration of future equipments and designs when designing of existing ships.

A single hangar door of that size would only be needed if the PLAN were planning on something like the V-22 Osprey. IMO that bird is not worth the time or effort and probably only made it into service because it was too big to fail. I doubt the PLAN plans on designing and building a similar aircraft. Anything else will not require a single door.

 

[rhino123]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

A single hangar door of that size would only be needed if the PLAN were planning on something like the V-22 Osprey. IMO that bird is not worth the time or effort and probably only made it into service because it was too big to fail. I doubt the PLAN plans on designing and building a similar aircraft. Anything else will not require a single door.

True... I am not sure about helicopters... and ships for that matter, but what if the PLAN wanted something like the Chinooks? I believe that the hangar door size would be useful for such aircraft.

 

[Mysterre]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

True... I am not sure about helicopters... and ships for that matter, but what if the PLAN wanted something like the Chinooks? I believe that the hangar door size would be useful for such aircraft.

Those LPD's don't have the height required for a Chinook-sized helo, and even if they did, they would not be able to fit a pair of them in that hangar, maybe one Chinook and either zero or two Z-9's.