071 LPD thread

[asif iqbal]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

You could maybe surge two at a time, but I highly doubt all three would be available at the same time unless they were all otherwise just sitting at pierside instead of doing the usual patrol/maintenance/training rotations.

they are all faily new ships, wont be needing much downtime in mainteance etc apart from that theres no reason why all 3 cant be ready at relatively short notice

 

[Mysterre]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

they are all faily new ships, wont be needing much downtime in mainteance etc apart from that theres no reason why all 3 cant be ready at relatively short notice

This may be the case when all 3 are new, but over the years as they are phased into service, it is not likely they will remain at pierside to be ready to all surge at once. Far more likely, they will be rotated in and out of deployment, maintenance and training, just like other ships, in which case, like I said, you could maybe surge 2 of them at a time.

 

[asif iqbal]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

nowhere did i say ALL 3 would be ready at one time, what im saying is that there is no reason with a little bit of notice that all 3 cant be deployed

no doubt they will be fullfilling training and opertional duties, however, I am sure PLAN has the organisational and logistical capability to ready all 3 if the need arises, its not like they have nuclear reactors that are going to need decommissioning

The PLAN thinking seems to be that three are adequate for the South Sea Fleet. Like that, they can lift the three mechanised battalion groups of one of the two marine brigades at any time.

The 071's seem to exercise only with the marines, focusing no doubt on the islands in the SCS. Both 1 and 164 Brigades are stationed at Zhanjiang, like 6 Landing Ship Flotilla, to which the 071's belong.

The Army is supposed to take care of Taiwan.

this is a good point Franco-Russe, mainly use for the Marines, but this is a pretty big vessal and really, for it to be used to its full potential it should be used for long range away from home operations, and theres no doubt it can do that pretty well

using it for close in island chains would be cutting its legs short, for that PLAN has plenty of landing ships with decent range and decent cargo capacity too

even if China gets say 7-8 of these LPDs, enough to transports a entire Marine brigade and their equipment, they could still easily find a use for them all

personally i think China could do with alot more Type 071 LPDs and also LHDs, they uses go far beyond amphibious assault

 

[Jeff Head]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

nowhere did i say ALL 3 would be ready at one time, what im saying is that there is no reason with a little bit of notice that all 3 cant be deployed

no doubt they will be fullfilling training and opertional duties, however, I am sure PLAN has the organisational and logistical capability to ready all 3 if the need arises, its not like they have nuclear reactors that are going to need decommissioning

Yes, but depending on the maintenance and service, there will be times when each vessel goes through a major cylce of maintenance and refit and upgrade that could easily take them out of the rotation for a year. In the middile of one of those, it is not likely that they will be able to quickly turn it around.

This is common for all major combatants and part of naval planning in determining how many to build. If they only build three, then they are calculating that there will be times when they can only deploy two...and that would be a surge because generally as one vessel comes out of refit, another is either working up and preparing for it, or another is qualing and prepping for serve afterwards. Each takes time.

Regular maintenance will occur every couple of years, major refts will probably occur every five or so years.

 

[hmmwv]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Maybe they the Marine can't mobilize all three mechanised battalion groups neither, so two ships, two groups.

 

[victtodd]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

In that case, the navy must be very pissed.

 

[Blackstone]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Several posters pointed to three 071 LPDs and no more to come (original estimate were six 071s and three 081s), is that because PLAN is looking into a different (larger) LPD? Any rumors to that effect, credible or not?

 

[lcloo]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Several posters pointed to three 071 LPDs and no more to come (original estimate were six 071s and three 081s), is that because PLAN is looking into a different (larger) LPD? Any rumors to that effect, credible or not?

Or they could be waiting for induction of China's LCAC. So far we only see a lone 3202 LCAC in trial, and the LCAC has very tight space clearance when entering/exiting 071 LPD, may be follow up design to LCAC #3202 is not yet finalised.

 

[timepass]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Several posters pointed to three 071 LPDs and no more to come (original estimate were six 071s and three 081s), is that because PLAN is looking into a different (larger) LPD? Any rumors to that effect, credible or not?

Well thats what doctor orders them 6 LPDs & 3 LHDs, 2+1 for each fleet.

 

[asif iqbal]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I'm not sure how much if any improvement can be made on the Type 071, I mean it's good a very modern stealth shaped hull probably one of the top in the world which can last for decades to come

So what can they change, capacity and more modern systems, I don't even think that is necessary

Maybe China is just following it's well rehearsed incremental development which time will expose

Having 2-3 LPDs, 1 x LHD, 1 x Carrier, 2 x flotillas of DDGs and 2 x flotillas for FFGs for each fleet would be a good naval force