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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
This happens now and then in grain silos, and can happen anywhere if the space is confined, the dust particulates get suspended in the air and a spark is introduced.
The most famous example I am aware of was in Texas, City near Houston and Galveston in April 1947 when a vessel carrying amonium nitrate fertilizer, where the captain closed all of the hatches to protect the cargo from a small fire that had broken out in the galley or somewhere else, exploded violently. Glsss was shatrttered in towns up to 40 miles away. 581 people were killed and over 5,000 injured. The town of Texas City was almost completely destroyed. Early the next morning, a second ship, which had caught fire and was also carrying fertilizer, also exploded.
An entire propeller was blown off the 1st ship and found later more than a mile inland. Other parts of the vessels were found at similar distances from the explosion. Google "Texas City Disaster" and look at the images. There are some fairly amazing photos from the incident now over 65 years ago. See the site listed below for more pictures:
If dust hangs in the air in sufficiently small particles and sufficient quantities, and if what does is of a substance that is combustible, then not only fire, but significant explosions can occur.
This happens now and then in grain silos, and can happen anywhere if the space is confined, the dust particulates get suspended in the air and a spark is introduced.
The most famous example I am aware of was in Texas, City near Houston and Galveston in April 1947 when a vessel carrying amonium nitrate fertilizer, where the captain closed all of the hatches to protect the cargo from a small fire that had broken out in the galley or somewhere else, exploded violently. Glsss was shatrttered in towns up to 40 miles away. 581 people were killed and over 5,000 injured. The town of Texas City was almost completely destroyed. Early the next morning, a second ship, which had caught fire and was also carrying fertilizer, also exploded.
An entire propeller was blown off the 1st ship and found later more than a mile inland. Other parts of the vessels were found at similar distances from the explosion. Google "Texas City Disaster" and look at the images. There are some fairly amazing photos from the incident now over 65 years ago. See the site listed below for more pictures:
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Equation
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
Thanks for that bit of history Jeff. Now the next time I go to Galveston or Texas City for fishing, I'll be sure to look up at those memorials.
Thanks for that bit of history Jeff. Now the next time I go to Galveston or Texas City for fishing, I'll be sure to look up at those memorials.
Vini_Vidi_Vici
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
Yeah, I have noticed. Dusts, especially metal dusts are flammable and explosive. I remember there was a major explosion at the Foxxcon factory, the contractor for APPLE INC, because they forgot to clean out the aluminum dust.
Yeah, I have noticed. Dusts, especially metal dusts are flammable and explosive. I remember there was a major explosion at the Foxxcon factory, the contractor for APPLE INC, because they forgot to clean out the aluminum dust.
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
But, back on topic...any word on the fourth Type 071?
Yes...do. Also, if you get the chance, visit the Battleship Texas. It is a very worthwhile museum that is a great display of World War I era battleship technology.
But, back on topic...any word on the fourth Type 071?
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franco-russe
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Strictly off-topic:
If you want to see superb examples of pre-WW II battleship technology, you should be looking for USS Washington and North Carolina, neither of which is unfortunately preserved, as far as I know.
The USS Texas is definitely pre-WW I, and not a very outstanding specimen, either.
There is not fourth Type 071, I do not know if there ever ever will be.
Strictly off-topic:
If you want to see superb examples of pre-WW II battleship technology, you should be looking for USS Washington and North Carolina, neither of which is unfortunately preserved, as far as I know.
The USS Texas is definitely pre-WW I, and not a very outstanding specimen, either.
There is not fourth Type 071, I do not know if there ever ever will be.
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The most notable thing about the Texas, outside of her combat duties, are all the "firsts" she had implemented on her over her life. She was the first US battleship to launch an aircraft. She was the first US battleship to mount anti-aircraft guns. She was the first US ship of any type to control gunfire with directors and range-finders. She was either the first, or among the first battleship to get the CXAM-1 version of CXAM commercial radar in the US Navy. Finally, she was the first US battleship to become a permanent museum ship.
So, she's a pretty good specimen, though others of her day and particularly later were certainly better armed.
But they may not be thinking that way.
Actually Texas was commissioned in 1914 during World War I and saw action in the form of North Sea sorties during that war. She also was pretty involved in the Atlantic and then at Normandy, and then later in the Pacific in shelling enemy positions in World War II. But thanks for pointing out my error, I had meant to classify her in the World War I era, not World War II. I fixed that in my post above.
The most notable thing about the Texas, outside of her combat duties, are all the "firsts" she had implemented on her over her life. She was the first US battleship to launch an aircraft. She was the first US battleship to mount anti-aircraft guns. She was the first US ship of any type to control gunfire with directors and range-finders. She was either the first, or among the first battleship to get the CXAM-1 version of CXAM commercial radar in the US Navy. Finally, she was the first US battleship to become a permanent museum ship.
So, she's a pretty good specimen, though others of her day and particularly later were certainly better armed.
Thanks. I had wondered if that was true...sounds more and more like it is. IMHO, they should build a fourth to ensure that two different fleets always had one available.
But they may not be thinking that way.
asif iqbal
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
Yes, i think there was confusion in the thread, because someone posted pics of the 3rd and said it was the 4th and then no pics of the 4th showed up so theres no 4th Type 071 LPD
maybe China is working on a new class of LPDs, maybe they will build a LHD and then go back to making more Type 071 LPDs, we will just have to wait and see
nevertheless 3 x Type 071 LPDs are a pretty good amphibious force and good addition to PLAN, all are pretty new so all of them should be available most of the time
Yes, i think there was confusion in the thread, because someone posted pics of the 3rd and said it was the 4th and then no pics of the 4th showed up so theres no 4th Type 071 LPD
maybe China is working on a new class of LPDs, maybe they will build a LHD and then go back to making more Type 071 LPDs, we will just have to wait and see
nevertheless 3 x Type 071 LPDs are a pretty good amphibious force and good addition to PLAN, all are pretty new so all of them should be available most of the time
franco-russe
Senior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
The PLAN thinking seems to be that three are adequate for the South Sea Fleet. Like that, they can lift the three mechanised battalion groups of one of the two marine brigades at any time.
The 071's seem to exercise only with the marines, focusing no doubt on the islands in the SCS. Both 1 and 164 Brigades are stationed at Zhanjiang, like 6 Landing Ship Flotilla, to which the 071's belong.
The Army is supposed to take care of Taiwan.
The PLAN thinking seems to be that three are adequate for the South Sea Fleet. Like that, they can lift the three mechanised battalion groups of one of the two marine brigades at any time.
The 071's seem to exercise only with the marines, focusing no doubt on the islands in the SCS. Both 1 and 164 Brigades are stationed at Zhanjiang, like 6 Landing Ship Flotilla, to which the 071's belong.
The Army is supposed to take care of Taiwan.
Mysterre
Banned Idiot
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
You could maybe surge two at a time, but I highly doubt all three would be available at the same time unless they were all otherwise just sitting at pierside instead of doing the usual patrol/maintenance/training rotations.