071 LPD thread

Equation

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

omg guns not properly stowed!
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LOL..ID that weapon sailor, we'll find out who it belong to later!

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Lol at the pillow. Maybe it belongs to a female personnel.

Lol...good eye there no_name! Who know's, it might belong to that sailor's girlfriend.:eek:
 

hmmwv

Junior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

The new racks in the SSGN are pretty nice. I have been able to see them and go through most of the vessel...except the enginerering/reactor spaces twoce now.

Most of the racks I see in the PLAN LPD appear to be two high with an area on top where you can see sailors personal luggage and other items stored. I hope they secure them up there a little better than is shown, particularly in fowl weather or heavy sea states.

I assume you toured one at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard? How lucky!
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I assume you toured one at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard? How lucky!
It was at the Bremerton YArds towards the end of its refitting, and then later while it was an active SSGN at Bangor Sub base.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Rare glimpse inside the living area of 071:

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Should all that cabling just be exposed out in the open like that? If there was a fire in the corridor, the insulation on the cables would melt or even catch fire themselves extremely quickly and could thus cut power to vital systems.

It even looks like they were designed to be in their own enclosed duct as I would have expected, but none of the duct covering seem to have been installed.

Hope they fix niggles like that without having to learn the hard way how important 'little' things like that could be.



This picture is very troubling. Maybe its just misleading because its only one snapshot of that corner and we have no idea what the context of the shot was, but weapons really shouldn't be just left lying around like that and there really should be an armory or at least gun locker inside the dorms for the marines to safely store their weapons during transit.

I also don't understand the design of those bunks.

It just seems stupid to have storage racks on the very top like that. It's not even like they did it to allow for extra storage by leaving a sensible space under the bunk either. The storage rack also lack any sort of built-in restraints or even anywhere to secure rope or webbing to, and I can just see kit raining down on people and getting broken from the fall in rough seas. The bottom bunks are also far too low for people to sit on them comfortably.

I seriously think they just bought some cheap ready-made civilian ferry bunks instead of designing something more suitable to an ocean going ship!

The Bunks are design like that because they are designed for three people to maximize capacity on the cheap beds for overnight ferries, but the ceilings on the 071 are far lower than on civilian ferries and as such could only sleep two people instead of three. :rolleyes:

Even if you think marines won't be staying onboard long enough to need their own lockers, at last have the storage racks under the bunk so heavy kit can be easily stowed without risking back injuries, and if things get really rough, no-one would be hurt and no valuable bits of kit get broken because things are falling off of the top bunks.

With these shots, you can really tell that the 071 is the PLAN's first attempt at a LPD, and I hope all these concerns and others are getting passed up the chain and than onto the shipyards so improvements could be made when the 071 deployed on anti-piracy patrols and issues cropped up as I am sure they would have done.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Excellent post ^^^

Should all that cabling just be exposed out in the open like that? If there was a fire in the corridor, the insulation on the cables would melt or even catch fire themselves extremely quickly and could thus cut power to vital systems.

You see the same thing on USN ships. Look in the upper right hand corner of the photo below. If the cables are covered with a vent like structure what happens, believe it or not, dust collects and that is a great fire hazard.

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ARABIAN SEA (June 23, 2012) Sailors combat a simulated fire during a general quarters drill aboard the amphibious dock-landing ship USS Gunston Hall (LSD 44). Gunston Hall is part of the Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group with the embarked 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit (24th MEU) and is deployed supporting maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jonathan Sunderman/Released)
 
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joshuatree

Captain
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Should all that cabling just be exposed out in the open like that? If there was a fire in the corridor, the insulation on the cables would melt or even catch fire themselves extremely quickly and could thus cut power to vital systems.

It could very well be fire rated cabling. Those look like your typical cabling ladder racks.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Excellent post ^^^



You see the same thing on USN ships. Look in the upper right hand corner of the photo below. If the cables are covered with a vent like structure what happens, believe it or not, dust collects and that is a great fire hazard.

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Thanks for the picture and info. You learn something new every day!
 

MwRYum

Major
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

You see the same thing on USN ships. Look in the upper right hand corner of the photo below. If the cables are covered with a vent like structure what happens, believe it or not, dust collects and that is a great fire hazard.

Dust are no mere fire hazard, they can be potentially explosive is such situation - I believe they do teach about dust explosion in fire prevention courses, right?
 

bd popeye

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Dust are no mere fire hazard, they can be potentially explosive is such situation - I believe they do teach about dust explosion in fire prevention courses, right?

Not sure about the explosion but I do remember that an accumulation of dust can cause a fire in some way.

Just before i served on the USS Hancock CVA-19 there had been several fires in heating and AC vents/ducts caused by dust build up.. The ship established a vent cleaning crew to maintain the cleanliness of the vents.
 
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