056 class FFL/corvette

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A.Man

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People could not find Her yesterday

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No. 2 of Huangpu or No. 6 (?) of total

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A.Man

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I won't call 056 a patrol boat, or LCS Rambo. Firepower wise, 056 has a lot more. Endurance and milti mission wise, LCS come out on top. But don't make it sound like one is clearly superior than the other.

056 is going to replace near 100 boats like this one (This is a very new 037)

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hmmwv

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It's interesting that 056's helipad is actually higher than 054's, with largely empty space below, maybe they can find enough space to put a UAV hanger below deck, you won't need anything larger than an ammo elevator to lift the UAV onto the helipad.
 

plawolf

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The actual hanger would have room to spare for housing UAVs. With the amount of space the full helipad and the high hull provides, there should be plenty of room to install TAS on the 056 if it doesn't have it already.
 

Mysterre

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There is no hangar or elevator on this boat. And there is definitely no TAS, nor do I see any evidence PLAN is thinking of going this direction. A UAV hangar would make far more sense utilizing the space between the torpedo launchers rather than having to design an entire elevator to raise it up from below. And it should be noted that it is not the deck directly beneath the helipad that is extra tall, it is in fact the deck below that.
 

asif iqbal

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Type 056 will be patrolling as far as Chinas 200 mile exclusion zone which means it will be facing Taiwan, India and Japanese vessels, it also means securing important lines of communication, under these circumstances TAS becomes vital
 

Mysterre

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Type 056 will be patrolling as far as Chinas 200 mile exclusion zone which means it will be facing Taiwan, India and Japanese vessels, it also means securing important lines of communication, under these circumstances TAS becomes vital
If PLAN thought TAS was vital for this ship's role they would have installed TAS. Obviously they don't. In terms of ASW, that ship is clearly defensively-oriented only. Fact is, that one photo showing the inside of the mooring area clearly shows no TAS; meanwhile every other system had already been installed, including things that would be more likely to be damaged during or around launch, and could have been installed after launch, such as the 30mm, HQ-10 launcher, and torpedoes. Yet they were all already there in that prelaunch photo. Yet somehow something that would be much more difficult to install after construction than before, such as the TAS, somehow was left for after launch. For what reason? The only reason would be if someone is stubbornly unwilling to admit the plain facts in front of their eyes and wishes for a TAS against all odds.

And speaking of facts, I went through like 5 or 6 pages of this thread to show everyone that what looks exactly like a fairlead.... is actually a fairlead, and not only that, is actually being used as a fairlead. Wow, what a shocker. That photo that you see on top of this page with the mooring lines coming out of it, demonstrates in no uncertain terms what that hole is supposed to be used for. It also perfectly illustrates what a TAS port looks like because there are two 054A's flanking it with their TAS ports clearly in view. Yet somehow a 056 with nothing but a single hole at the stern, that looks exactly like the fairleads on many other PLAN warships, has been photographed multiple times using that same hole as a fairlead, has been photographed with no TAS inside the mooring area but with every other system already installed.... some how, some way, has a TAS, or is destined to have one. I think I could use similar logic to dismiss anyone who tries to convince me that Elvis is dead.
 

asif iqbal

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What's the big deal?

Type 056 is going to be a mass produced ship, it will perform multiple roles, over a long time, and this means it wil undergo modifications just like Type 054>Type 054A>Type 054A+

The current batch of Type 056 will be going to Hong Kong do they need TAS, probably not, where is the next batch going to go? No one knows but if it goes to South China Sea Fleet then it could even take a hanger and TAS or any other modification to meet its operational requirments
 

Mysterre

Banned Idiot
What's the big deal?

Type 056 is going to be a mass produced ship, it will perform multiple roles, over a long time, and this means it wil undergo modifications just like Type 054>Type 054A>Type 054A+

The current batch of Type 056 will be going to Hong Kong do they need TAS, probably not, where is the next batch going to go? No one knows but if it goes to South China Sea Fleet then it could even take a hanger and TAS or any other modification to meet its operational requirments
But who says its operational requirements include offensive ASW, now or in the future? Nobody can rule out the possibility of this role in future upgrades, but just because it will be patrolling the SCS or anywhere else doesn't mean ASW is going to be part of the picture. Standard low-intensity green water mission profiles do not have to include sub-hunting. I have no idea why everybody assumes this is or will be the case. If we ever see a mod of this class with a lengthened hull, a dedicated hangar, and a TAS port, that would be the sign. There would of course have to be several other modifications topside, such as increasing the height of some of the sensors as well as the stacks. I don't know if the HQ-10 launcher requires significant deck penetration; if it does, it would have to be relocated as well. I'm not sure if the design or the powerplant has enough flexibility to accommodate these changes. Personally I wouldn't hold my breath waiting to see such a mod.
 
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