Thornblade
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From the HSH forum, the starboard side torpedo tubes clearly shown in these 2 pictures:
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056 class FFL/corvette
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Mysterre
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It might come as a shocker to some people, but what if there are NO torpedo reloads on board?
joshuatree
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Actually no surprise for me, now that I am able to see glimpses of the inside space usage. The mess hall looks a decent size and knowing the crew size is roughly around 60, it's easy to fathom there isn't much storage space on board for reloads.
Ok but seriously, what kind of engagement would these ships be involved in where they would need to replenish in the course of?
I think we can all see the "Light Frigates" (yup that is what the official notices called this class as posted at the beginning of this thread) as ships that operate in a pack with the support of something larger and a supply ship.
These little ships still pack a heavy punch and anything that needed them to shoot everything and then need more straight away would be a very major Sea Battle.
I think we can all see the "Light Frigates" (yup that is what the official notices called this class as posted at the beginning of this thread) as ships that operate in a pack with the support of something larger and a supply ship.
These little ships still pack a heavy punch and anything that needed them to shoot everything and then need more straight away would be a very major Sea Battle.
MwRYum
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By what I can remember of the similar layout on board the 054A, the hatch should be more forward and the torpedo tubes will be at an angle to launch...obviously by the angle of the video clip this can't be seen.
And I don't know if I can snap a pic when the time comes...DSLR like the D5100 make very audible mechanical shutter sound...
This is actually due to lack of the word for corvettes and frigates in PLAN semantics. In ROCN, Frigate is called 巡防艦 (Patrol Defence Ship), while corvette is being called 護衛艦 (Escort Protect Ship). However, PLAN's frigates starting from Type 01 Chengdu-class frigate is being called 護衛艦 (Escort Protect Ship), while 巡防艦 (Patrol Defence Ship) never entered PLAN vocabulary. Thus, when 056 entered service it's been called 輕型護衛艦 (Light Escort Protect Ship) hence the confusion.
Interesting nearly all JMDSD naval ships from the 1097 ton Ikazuchi class to the 19000 ton Hyūga-class are all called 護衛艦 (Escort Protect Ship)....
I love deceptions that fools no one.
These are efforts by Chinese and Japanese to describe the function of naval vessels, while the Western name "frigate" is used most times for some collection of medium size fighting ships. The oldest frigates I heard about were small rowing vessels in the Mediterranean used by pirates. A very important frigate was the sailing frigate of the pirates from Dunkerque, then spelled Duinkerken and part of the Spanish Netherlands, around 1600. We do not know in which respects these ships differed from other ships of that time and area, but the Dutch imitated them successfully and developed them until around 1660 60 guns ships fit to fight in the line were called frigates. Next the name was used for small three masted ships with about 20 six ponder guns in the beginning of the 18th century, from which they grew until some 36 guns around 1800, when the USA went to frigates that were even larger ( see for example USS Constitution ) followed around the middle of the 19th century by even larger frigates with auxilliary steam power. And then the name was dropped until in the 20th century the destroyers, formerly torpedo boat destroyers had become so larger that a new class of similar but smaller ships was required for which the name frigate was chosen.
In short the name frigate was often introduced when a new class of small or medium size warships needed a new name. Are there no similar historical names available in East Asia to name ships classes?
MwRYum
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No. The West dominated modern naval development so you get the picture, every East Asian nations develop their own modern navies by emulate the Western models, mostly the British.
Like I've said before, PLAN has nothing between "frigate" and "boat" in terms of classification, thus when 056 would mostly be classified as corvette in Western terminology, it's still classified as "frigate", or sometime referred to as "light frigate" which is more appropriate, though this isn't official as far as I can tell. Still, China does built corvettes for foreign customers before, but PLAN never fielded corvette before 056 class.
Long ago I saw translations of the names of Chinese naval ship classes of centuries ago ( was it in Needham's Science and Civilisation of China, the volume about maritime technology ? ) and IIRC those names were also descriptive, while already the Romans, beside using descriptive names like trireme, also used such names as liburne, that was called after the tribe whose standard boat provided the prototype. Aren't there any historical names that can be borrowed for use in naming new ship classes?
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