Yeah ASW is what I intended to express, somehow I switched the two of them around.
056 class FFL/corvette
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Yeah ASW is what I intended to express, somehow I switched the two of them around.
plawolf
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Re: The AP is clueless
Either they edited the article since you first read it, or you didn't read it very carefully/didn't do your own homework, since the author stressed that the 056 is significantly smaller than most other frigates and more in line with the size of a corvette.
Nevertheless, the PLAN seem to have decided to call them frigates, so the author was fully within his/her rights to also call it that. After all, its not like there are any universally accepted thresholds for when a corvette becomes a frigate becomes a destroyer becomes a cruiser etc. Indeed, the world's navies are full of examples of ships of similar displacement and capabilities being call frigates in one navy and destroyers in another.
On balance, that piece from the AP is one of the better works out there and is pretty fair and honest and refrained from the usual bias you get with most western news articles.
Either they edited the article since you first read it, or you didn't read it very carefully/didn't do your own homework, since the author stressed that the 056 is significantly smaller than most other frigates and more in line with the size of a corvette.
Nevertheless, the PLAN seem to have decided to call them frigates, so the author was fully within his/her rights to also call it that. After all, its not like there are any universally accepted thresholds for when a corvette becomes a frigate becomes a destroyer becomes a cruiser etc. Indeed, the world's navies are full of examples of ships of similar displacement and capabilities being call frigates in one navy and destroyers in another.
On balance, that piece from the AP is one of the better works out there and is pretty fair and honest and refrained from the usual bias you get with most western news articles.
joshuatree
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Don't think anyone posted the video clip yet.....
[video=youtube;6bQgrE9cTh4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6bQgrE9cTh4[/video]
[video=youtube;6bQgrE9cTh4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6bQgrE9cTh4[/video]
MwRYum
Major
Behind the gates are the torpedo tubes, that means not that many room left for UAV storage or basic support? But the clip left out other things that'd make better observation as well, hopefully when it is debuted in the open house event I can fill the gaps.
Mysterre
Banned Idiot
If by not many you mean not any, then yes. In order to store any UAV's they would have to be sitting right next to the torpedo tubes, which would prevent the tubes from being swung outwards into launch position during battle. Don't let the garage-style doors fool you, they are meant to shelter the torpedo bays from the elements, not to serve as doors to any mini-hangars for UAV's.
Geographer
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Right. Mysterre has been preaching this for a long time against the wishful thinking of many posters. Give credit where it's due--Mysterre--for showing how the space next to the landing pad is not intended to be used as any kind of hanger.
1st, I would not call the 056s "Frigates". They are really corvettes, although very capable ones at that.At This Point, my goodness, Hudong Has at least 8 newly built or building Frigates in the yard.
I bet, the US pushed China too hard-If you look at China like an enemy, China will be your enemy(more than enough for you to chew).
2nd, I do not see this buildup as specifically a "US is the enemy," type thing at all. There is no doubt that there will be some divergence in iterests that could cause flair ups, but the principle reason for the large shipbuilding program and buildup is really to simply bring the PLAN up to date and get them out from under the decades old technology the Ludas and older Frigates and Corvettes that the PLAN has in such large numbers. And they are doing a very good job of that, replacing them rapidly with new, modern designs that can protect PRC interests.
As to whether this is going to lead to an adversarial relationship, or an "enemy," relationship is not so sure a thing in the least.
...and I for one pray it does not. Not because I fear that the PLAN as it stands (or even is projected to stand over the next 15-20 years) would defeat the US Navy, because, quite frankly, IMHO they are very far away from having the capability to do that...and the US Navy is not sitting still either. But because of the death and injury and loss of resource that would occur on both sides in any case should such a situation develop into conflict.
Let us pray and work to better understand one another, and work with one another through whatever disagreements we may have and find mutually acceptable, peaceful solutions to them. Then, let us use our joint naval power to keep the sea lanes open and available for all nations and people of good will and peace...and use that power to keep terrorists, pirates, or rogue nations from interfering with that commerce that is to both of our mutual benefit and interest.
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kwaigonegin
Colonel
China just named 582: Bengbu (蚌埠), a city of Anhui Province. It is likely that 582 is going to East Sea Fleet of PLAN.
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The walls next to these tubes doesn't look like doors or anything that can be open. Then again if you look on the outside you could see doors where the tubes are located just inside in the 'hanger'.
joshuatree
Captain
Yeah, I'm confused by that too as I'm positive that pic is showing the port side garage so we should be staring at the back of the port launcher. The YouTube clip has a short segment of that same launcher from the opposite angle looking out the garage door. Maybe the door is obscured by the triple torpedo unit itself?
Which now begs another question, since the space of the garage is actually that confined, where are the spare torpedos kept? Or this means no reloading till replenishment whether in port or ship-to-ship?
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