055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[kwaigonegin]

Another shot of the 052D where we can see the beam in relation with the gun turret's base.

I measured that the beam of the 052D is about about 4.5 time's the upper-ring's length, divided thru 18 (the known beam length of the 052D), it gives me "4", which would be the diameter of the ring:

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For the 055, I measured about 5.75 times the ring's diameter. Multiplied by "4", we would have 23. Which would correlate with the early satellite image estimation of the beam being 23m.

Now, this would sound pretty good so far, but I am still cautious, since the four meters of diameter for the ring still feels too much for me.

I'd be happy if someone could provide me an image of a person standing besides the PJ-38, so that we can see whether the four meters make sense or not...

I think you meant to say feet not meters.

 

[Insignius]

???

I meant to say meters.

wasnt 23m the estimated beam from the satellite pictures? Or what do you mean?

 

[Jura The idiot]

???

I meant to say meters.

wasnt 23m the estimated beam from the satellite pictures? Or what do you mean?

I just checked wikipedia and 23 FEET would be a typical Draught of a modern Destroyer (a typical Beam could be 23 METERS you estimated) ... but I don't mean to upset anybody or nothing

 

[Blitzo]

A nice cg, by the same guy who did them a while ago, but obviously tailored a little to the newer photos.
I think this CGI is the most accurate of what the actual thing will end up looking like, however I expect/hope there to be 64 tubes on the bow, 055 certainly shouldn't be lacking space for it, considering we know the distance between the main gun and ciws is a deal greater than that on 052D, along with the expectation of 055 to have a meaningfully greater beam than 052D.

I also wonder if the "layer" below the front superstructure is actually going to be part of the final ship. It doesn't look continuous with the rest of the superstructure, and those windows look awfully out of place.

If that level is going to be "removed" from the final ship, and if we logically extrapolate where the rear superstructure/smoke stack will end, then that will add a good deal of potential aft space, although at the same time I don't expect more than 64 VLS cells aft.

 

[Jeff Head]

A nice cg, by the same guy who did them a while ago, but obviously tailored a little to the newer photos.
I think this CGI is the most accurate of what the actual thing will end up looking like, however I expect/hope there to be 64 tubes on the bow...

Hmm....seems to really agree with my own depiction of a few days ago:

And yes, I believe the VLS will be 64 forward and 48 aft.

I also wonder if the "layer" below the front superstructure is actually going to be part of the final ship. It doesn't look continuous with the rest of the superstructure, and those windows look awfully out of place.

I do not think it will be that way with those windows. That's part of the mockup for the benefit of the people who will be assigned to work there in all likelihood. They will probably perform all sorts of logistical and planning there.

 

[Blackstone]

Why are the 055/052 AESA panels so much lower than on Ticons and Burks?

 

[cn_habs]

If it's rumored to be 15,000 tons, I'd be really disappointed if it were to host 64+48 = 112 missiles only.

 

[Blitzo]

Why are the 055/052 AESA panels so much lower than on Ticons and Burks?

They aren't much lower on 052C/D, I'd say they are about the same proportional height as on burke. Of course, the aft two arrays on burke sit "higher" than the bow arrays, but that is to avoid obstruction by the aft half of the ship. Ticos arrays do sit relatively high compared to other ships, but that is because of its high superstructure. Other ships are a little less ambitious in trying to add higher topside weight on a relatively small beam.

And obviously 055 hasn't hit the water yet, so we don't know how high its APAR panels sit relative to the ship.

If it's rumored to be 15,000 tons, I'd be really disappointed if it were to host 64+48 = 112 missiles only.

Actually its more like 12,000 tons, but yeah, I'd prefer to see 128 cells as well, just for roundness' sake

 

[Blitzo]

I do not think it will be that way with those windows. That's part of the mockup for the benefit of the people who will be assigned to work there in all likelihood. They will probably perform all sorts of logistical and planning there.

I'm was more talking about the square "step" protruding aft from beneath the smoke stack. The windows obviously won't be there on the final ship, but the non continuous look of that step/layer protruding out, which also has windows, makes me wonder if that will also be removed on the final ship. That would add a lot of potential aft VLS space.

 

[no_name]

I'm was more talking about the square "step" protruding aft from beneath the smoke stack. The windows obviously won't be there on the final ship, but the non continuous look of that step/layer protruding out, which also has windows, makes me wonder if that will also be removed on the final ship. That would add a lot of potential aft VLS space.

Maybe it could be platform to place additional missiles, not necessarily VL style?
And 128-112 gives 16 which is an interesting number, perhaps 112 refers to total VLS missiles?