055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[Jeff Head]

Looks like a sizable ship to me if you add the bow and helo deck. Those supporting beams are probably 10m apart.

So, let's take the new pic you found here:

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And turn it into that same depiction I made earlier:

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I actually like the coloring of this one better, though I can do some more work to it. This is a first cut.

Kwaig, I'll put one of those radrs on there in a future pic. Although they could have some form of that in the integrated mast.

 

[tphuang]

Found on Internet-Just FYI

i'm pretty sure this is fanboy speculation.

 

[no_name]

 

[Jeff Head]

Here you go, Kwaig, just for you.

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[MwRYum]

The speculation on the test rig so far indicates a ship design with a longer hull, but no indications so far if it'd be wider, as we know if the width-length ratio made the design too narrow it'd suffer in terms of sea worthiness, and not a good thing when the PLAN looking at ocean-going mission profiles in the future.

 

[Blitzo]

I have severe doubts that this ship has the same beam as 052C/D, and I also doubt the PLAN would design a ship with an unstable length to beam, they aren't exactly new to this.

So the assumption of improper sea worthiness is an unrealistically pessimistic one. If anything, the expectation of a wider beam than 052D and/or at least a sufficient ratio for sea worthiness is a minimal and realistic one.

 

[Insignius]

I think a way to get a rough idea about the dimension of the beam is to compare the relation between the upper part of the PJ-38 with the beam shown in these two photos, and apply the numbers we know onto our conclusion (052D beam length is 18m).
While the test rig photo here is cropped, we still can assume the full shape of the 055's beam by estimation, and compare it with the, hopefully correct, dimensions of the PJ-38 gun.

Anyone want to try?



of course we must adjust to the perspective, but I think it is doable, since the PJ-38 mockup sits pretty close to the bow-end of the 'deck'.

 

[Blitzo]

I've thought about it too, but I don't think we have any photos of the mock up at similar angles to 052D where we can judge its beam without perspective issues.

The only real way we had so far was google earth, but we need an update of the site imagery.

There's also the possbility that the mock up's width is not representative of the real thing's final beam.

 

[Insignius]

upon closer inspection, I've noticed that there is a faint "ring"-shape on the roof of the deck, showing the exact position of the PJ-38 gun mockup's base (red circle). Comparing it with a photo of the real PJ-38's round base on the 052D, gives us a rough idea about the dimensions of the base relative to the other parts of the gun.

Question now remains, if the mockup gun actually features the same base as the real gun, and whether the faint black ring is the upper part of the base connecting to the gun turret or the lower part of the base connecting to the deck...

 

[Insignius]

Another shot of the 052D where we can see the beam in relation with the gun turret's base.

I measured that the beam of the 052D is about about 4.5 time's the upper-ring's length, divided thru 18 (the known beam length of the 052D), it gives me "4", which would be the diameter of the ring:



For the 055, I measured about 5.75 times the ring's diameter. Multiplied by "4", we would have 23. Which would correlate with the early satellite image estimation of the beam being 23m.

Now, this would sound pretty good so far, but I am still cautious, since the four meters of diameter for the ring still feels too much for me.

I'd be happy if someone could provide me an image of a person standing besides the PJ-38, so that we can see whether the four meters make sense or not...