055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread
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perhaps but it's probably the best guesstimation at what the bridge/engine superstructure will look like out of all the renderings. also i think this picture out of all renders gives the most plausible idea of where the aesa panels will be located.
Yeah, but then it should only have included the deckhouse and mast, and not the rest of the ship, which is probably not very accurate, and if anything probably inaccurate.
More importantly, we don't even need a guestimation of what the deckhouse and forward superstructure will look like, because it is at a stage where we can accurately extrapolate its overall shape.
And given how poorly proportioned the rest of the drawing is, along with the missing rear mast, the only thing it does get right based off what we can all see in plain day is just consolation points. So overall, 3/10, poor effort.
Some clearer view of the test apparatus. All are 1280x960.
The main integrated mast is still unfinished, but maybe some extrapolations can be made about its final size and geometry.
A nice pic of a burke from a similar angle, which I think nicely demonstrates how much larger the 055s main deckhouse will comparably be. Looks like 055s command bridge windows/portholes will be quite large as well, relatively speaking. The size of what you'd expect on an aircraft carrier island.
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Morning guys...
Military Analyst Programme today brings us to the Type 055 discussion as well as the tower. Guest is the ever humourous Prof ZZZ.
Sorry, due to tight work schedule, I cant translate as before.
Enjoy
Morning guys...
Military Analyst Programme today brings us to the Type 055 discussion as well as the tower. Guest is the ever humourous Prof ZZZ.
Sorry, due to tight work schedule, I cant translate as before.
Enjoy
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Morning guys...
Military Analyst Programme today brings us to the Type 055 discussion as well as the tower. Guest is the ever humourous Prof ZZZ.
Sorry, due to tight work schedule, I cant translate as before.
Enjoy
I watched this and basically all they say is that the rumored 055 DDG fits the development process of many nations, but because without official PLAN confirmation they can't go into any details. The rest of the program talks about the Zumwalt, Sejong the Great, and Atago.
BORING.
for sure but all the other extrapolations i have seen have incorporated highly fanciful portrayals of even the deckhouse and mast which we have a relatively good idea of from the structure. gotta give credit where credit is due, i imagine the finished result will have a deckhouse and mast with aesa panel placement most resembling this drawing than any previous one.
Look, I don't want to talk too much about the methods of judging speculative military doodles, but in this case it is a matter of logic.
We don't need a drawing to see how the deckhouse and mast and radar array placement will probably look like, not when the mock up is at a closer stage of completion like so. So giving them credit for following what our eyes all see is like giving out charity points, especially when the rest of the ship is so awkwardly thought out. You can even see the erasing marks where they did the hash job of modifying a previous drawing for what we now know is the superstructure shape.
And you can bet that all the other artists who have drawn previous better CGs are now reworking their previous images to correspond with the revised deckhouse and mast geometry.
Basically, what I'm saying is that now that we know what the primary deckhouse and forward superstructure looks like, any revised or new CGIs and drawings from this point on featuring the correct updated geometry should not deserve any particular recognition for modifying their concepts to keep up with the times, but rather it is the rest of the ship which should be judged.
i think there's a chance we won't be seeing the actual radars installed on the starboard side of the ship, which would be a bit sad. that goes for both S band arrays on that side. Since two sides of the ship are the same, there's no reason to test all of them. And the port side of the mock up, facing the large lake, seems more useful to test equipment. Sadly, it's also the side we might have harder time getting images from. Unless someone gets a boat and uses a very long lens.
I would expect, however, the x band array on the back. Though that too might be hard to photograph. Most interesting thing to follow will surely be the rear radar.
If all of the missiles on 055 use self guidance for terminal phase, relatively lower front arrays won't really matter. I would expect to see the same arrays as on 052d, meaning they'd be used for midcourse guidance as well. Which means x band is free to be used for early warning only. If so, i'm actually surprised to see the largest opening on the mast to be where it is, height wise. On such a large ship one could easely afford to put the radar very high up. And the large holes seem to be around 25-27 meters. Certainly high, but not as high as sampson on type 45.
Though if the real x band warning radar will actually go on top of the mast structure, (but what are the holes for then?) then we might be talking about a 30-32 meter high array.
Is it possible we might see two sets of x band arrays? One high up for early warning and then more arrays where the holes are for... missile communication? I guess that'd free the large S band arrays to be used for volume search and tracking only, possibly increasing the overall number of fire channels.
We do know that hq9, as opposed to hhq9, uses higher frequency dataink for missile communication. Maybe the future naval hq9b is also going to go that route. But that'd also suggest there are going to be at least some differences between the S band array on 052d and ones on 055.
I would expect, however, the x band array on the back. Though that too might be hard to photograph. Most interesting thing to follow will surely be the rear radar.
If all of the missiles on 055 use self guidance for terminal phase, relatively lower front arrays won't really matter. I would expect to see the same arrays as on 052d, meaning they'd be used for midcourse guidance as well. Which means x band is free to be used for early warning only. If so, i'm actually surprised to see the largest opening on the mast to be where it is, height wise. On such a large ship one could easely afford to put the radar very high up. And the large holes seem to be around 25-27 meters. Certainly high, but not as high as sampson on type 45.
Though if the real x band warning radar will actually go on top of the mast structure, (but what are the holes for then?) then we might be talking about a 30-32 meter high array.
Is it possible we might see two sets of x band arrays? One high up for early warning and then more arrays where the holes are for... missile communication? I guess that'd free the large S band arrays to be used for volume search and tracking only, possibly increasing the overall number of fire channels.
We do know that hq9, as opposed to hhq9, uses higher frequency dataink for missile communication. Maybe the future naval hq9b is also going to go that route. But that'd also suggest there are going to be at least some differences between the S band array on 052d and ones on 055.
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