055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

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ll if we move the goalposts to be a little wider, then the US comes within the discussion as they launched 2 Ticos within days of each other. ...
it's cucumber season so I've been wondering about your definition of "within days" while checking
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were launched at different shipyards (LOL)
 
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asif iqbal

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it was 4 in the water in one year but that doesn't mean the rate is 4 per year

Dalian first started in Aug 2016 for these 2 units

JNCX started a year earlier in 2015 on 1st unit

The mock-up was up in 2014

The next unit from DL wont be launched till late 2019 its a good two years of work

Build rate is therefore just over 1 per year between 2 yards

My prediction is

JNCX launches its 5th unit in 2019
DL launches 6th unit in 2019 maybe even 2020

6 units in 4 years is 1.5 per year

By 2025 we could have 16 units split evenly between DL and JNCX

add that to 6 x Type 052C, 18 x Type 052D and 12 x Type 052E
 

latenlazy

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it was 4 in the water in one year but that doesn't mean the rate is 4 per year

Dalian first started in Aug 2016 for these 2 units

JNCX started a year earlier in 2015 on 1st unit

The mock-up was up in 2014

The next unit from DL wont be launched till late 2019 its a good two years of work

Build rate is therefore just over 1 per year between 2 yards

My prediction is

JNCX launches its 5th unit in 2019
DL launches 6th unit in 2019 maybe even 2020

6 units in 4 years is 1.5 per year

By 2025 we could have 16 units split evenly between DL and JNCX

add that to 6 x Type 052C, 18 x Type 052D and 12 x Type 052E
Counting the year we saw the first mock-up to determine build rate makes zero sense. We should be determining the per year build rate by taking the number of ships being built at once divided by the number of years it takes to complete one ship.
 

asif iqbal

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Who used mock up you ? Not me anyway

That was just a statement in my post

By build rate it’s clear we are talking about launch from first satellite photos
 

Red Moon

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Who used mock up you ? Not me anyway

That was just a statement in my post

By build rate it’s clear we are talking about launch from first satellite photos
But it seems your arithmetic is a off in some way:

If JNXC started the first in mid 2015 and launched it mid 2017, it takes them two years from start to launch. It was the same with the second one, only they started a year later. But it sounds like you agree that work began on a third once the first drydock was free, so that another will be launched mid 2019. If the pattern repeats with the other drydock, this means a fourth will come from JNXC in 2020, so that they are doing one per year by themselves.

Meanwhile, if Dalian started their two boats concurrently in August 2016 and put them in the water in July 2018, it amounts to more or less the same rate: one ship per year (or slightly more). Following the same procedure, there should be another two out from Dalian in 2020, and this makes a total of 8 in four years.
 

taxiya

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Really ?
"China launches next-generation destroyers expected to be armed with electromagnetic railgun"
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Type 055 likely to be armed with experimental electromagnetic railgun
Two of China's newest-generation guided missile destroyers - Type 055 - have been launched in Dalian, a coastal city of Northeast China's Liaoning Province, on Tuesday, marking China's fourth such launch of Type 055 destroyers.
Experts say the People's Liberation Army (PLA) needs to commission at least 10.
Type 055 is China's first home-grown 10,000-ton class missile destroyer, and the first and second ships of this type were launched by the Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard Group in June 2017 and April 2018. The two vessels launched on Tuesday were built by the Dalian Shipyard Group. Both shipyards are under the China State Shipbuilding Corporation.
"Launching four 10,000-ton class missile destroyers in about one year shows China's remarkable shipbuilding capability, and compared to other major naval powers, including the US, China's speed is the fastest," said Wang Yunfei, a military expert and a retired officer of the Chinese navy.
Type 055 has multiple roles to play in the future of the PLA Navy, including aircraft carrier escort, theater missile defense and sea-to-ground attack, Wang noted.
"According to the history of the PLA Navy, we normally need about 10 destroyers, and in the future, the Navy will be heavy and diversified, so it's possible to see more than 10 Type 055 join the PLA," he said.
The photos taken at the Dalian Shipyard on Tuesday, and uploaded by military enthusiasts on Weibo, showed that there is one more Type 055 under construction in a dock. Military experts believe that the first Type 055 will be formally delivered to the PLA Navy by the end of 2018.
"After the launching ceremony, the next step is sea trial, which normally takes one year, so the first one launched in June 2017 would likely be enlisted by the end of this year, if everything goes well," Wang told the Global Times.
The two ships launched on Tuesday might finish sea trials and be delivered to the PLA Navy by October next year, Song Zhongping, a military expert and TV commentator, told the Global Times on Tuesday.
Type 055 will also likely be armed with an electromagnetic railgun, Song said. "The Type 055 is the best fit for China's future electromagnetic gun, for the all-electric warship could meet the weapon's huge power supply demand."
Photos spread on the internet since January showed that a Type 072 III landing ship of the PLA Navy was equipped with a main gun that is suspected to be an experimental electromagnetic railgun, reported Science and Technology Daily in February.
Not in the current batch. Maybe when 055 got its IEPS. Professor Ma envisioned "全能舰" that is to be more competent than today's destroyers in air-defense, anti-ship and land attack due to incorporation of high energy weapon (laser) and railgun. It is a long term roadmap of evolution with railgun being the first step after gaining sufficient electricity supply. Pretty much what Zumwalt wanted to be.
 

taxiya

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It's a matter of time but I'll only believe when we see a Type 055 launched without its main gun.
Indeed, Peoples daily is not accurate. It has been commonly accepted among netizens that the next variant 055A (called by us) may be IEPS equipped which is able to support a railgun, not 055 in current form. Perhaps the IEPS can be ready in 2 years to be installed, IF the railgun currently on trail can move fast enough to catch, we may see something then.
 

asif iqbal

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Beautiful shot

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